Weird that this was ignored:
No be honest with yourself. You brought up single-nucleotide polymorphism. Which I showed was nothing more than a single letter replaced by another existing letter.
Wow, thanks for that, I had no idea... But...
What do you mean by "letter"?
And how does this jive your claims, earlier in this very thread, that 'genetic polymorphism' is the same thing as SNP?
You then got upset because you thought you were going to prove single letters had nothing to do with it.
What do you mean by "letter"?
I'm sorry, but is it not YOUR contention that SNPs and all other mutations have nothing to do with new "allies"? That new "allies" arise by hybridization? Is it not you that repeatedly posts a quote mentioning the "introduction" of new alleles which you (and only you) clearly interpret as meaning "production of"?
Why are you projecting YOUR naivete onto me?
So I quoted your own scientific definition, which confirmed I was correct, and you just can’t admit you were wrong in your false claims.
I must have missed it - please show me where you quoted my "own scientific definition" of "mutation" and "allele" that indicates that hybridization is the source of all new alleles and that mutation does not exist* - because that is actually in effect what you have been claiming all along, and it looks like you cannot even understand your own claims (or are trying to run away from them).
SNPs are but one type of mutation. You know this, yes? No? Alleles are variants of a gene - you keep insisting that 'new' alleles arise via hybridization and that mutation plays no role in variation or speciation. Right?
Then, you post a quote about the importance of hybridization in speciation, which actually mentions that the 'new' alleles introduced via hybridization are themselves the result of mutation and selection and then declare that I cannot understand that this somehow vindicates your claims.
As I have written - you have got to be a Poe or a troll at this point.
Now your going to go pout because you lack any knowledge of what you claim to understand and it was shown to all.
OK, bro... You remind me of those obese sports nuts that yell from the stands "You suck!" at a major league pitcher when an opponent gets a base hit...
But let’s reiterate that definition to make your lack of inderstanding clear, so people will stop being fooled by your pretend knowledge.
Single-nucleotide polymorphism - Wikipedia
“For example, at a specific base position in the human genome, the C nucleotide may appear in most individuals, but in a minority of individuals, the position is occupied by an A. This means that there is an SNP at this specific position, and the two possible nucleotide variations – C or A – are said to be
alleles for this position.“
So you bring up SNP, then go on a rant when
I show they are nothing more than single letters being replaced by single letters that already existed.
Please forgive me, I failed to recognize that I was in the presence of scientific greatness.
Please indulge me, oh Genetics master, and expand upon a conundrum I find myself in. I, gosh, just cannot comprehend this - from your Wiki link:
"For example, a
single-base mutation in the APOE (apolipoprotein E) gene is associated with a lower risk for Alzheimer's disease."
Why did your SNP wiki page mention this - that an SNP in a gene does something when you have declared that alleles are really just one letter difference that was already there?
When I clicked on the 'gene' link on your SNP wiki page, I strangely saw the following:
"Genes can acquire mutations in their sequence, leading to different variants, known as alleles, in the population"
and - oh my stars - the wiki page on "gene" has a
WHOLE SECTION dedicated to mutation! And - gulp! - it discusses them in reference to the creation of NEW ALLELES! I mean, ALLIES!
Genes can acquire mutations in their sequence, leading to different variants, known as alleles, in the population.
And - oh my, the vapors are a-comin' -
the Google takes me to a site that makes this outrageous claim:
How are new alleles created?
Occasionally, DNA mutations occur in germ cells – cells destined to become eggs or sperm. In this case, the DNA mutation is copied into every new cell of the growing embryo following fertilisation. In this way, new DNA variants are passed on to the next generation. If the mutation affects a gene, it will result in a new version of that gene – a new allele.
Please correct these lies! Tell the TRUTH that alleles are just a different letter that was already there!
Then please tell the Grants what an allele REALLY is! Won't you? Because the Grants and their wicked co-conspirators say this about alleles:
"...the [allele] introduced by hybridization has been shaped by natural selection, albeit in a differentiated genome (deleterious mutations have been purged and any beneficial mutations gone to fixation by selection)."
And to think about this great offense - it is found in the very link you use to claim the opposite! They must be part of the conspiracy to hide the truth!
Take a break, and read up on what you clearly fail to understand in the meantime.
Yes sir, thank you sir. I will definitely take the time to understand the writings of scientists and genetics people to mean the opposite of what they actually do such that my new lernin' will conform to your great creationist intellect's desires...
*except when mutations mutate all the old genes of the 'perfect' genome into junkDNA - which other creationists claim does not even exist. I love it when YECs argue against each other without even realizing it!