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You want to be careful or people might hold you to that.Why not just admit it is what the evidence suggests it is?
Thanks for the link. It is quite a frustrating topic.We've been through this once before. It is amazing the denial some people have. If you want to follow this, be prepared for a lot of ignored questions.
Omphalos means "navel", and a navel is a scar, and there were no scars prior to the Fall.Adam and Eve could have been 30 year olds with a history that didn't involve the very specific process of scarring perhaps?
You're a YEEAC.Omphalos means "navel", and a navel is a scar, and there were no scars prior to the Fall.
No scarring means no navel means no Omphalos.
Besides --- don't you think I'm a YEC?
I wonder where those who accuse me of being a YEC suddenly went to?
Perhaps they could help Mr Nostromo understand.
I like it!You're a YEEAC.
Sorry, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Something can't be 4.57 billion years old, and created six thousand years ago, no matter how bad you wish it so.I like it!
But given the fact that I think the earth is 4.57 billion years old, I'm going to have to [very reluctantly] decline the label.
I disagree: 1Sorry, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Something can't be 4.57 billion years old, and created six thousand years ago, no matter how bad you wish it so.
You want to be careful or people might hold you to that.
I disagree: 1
This.To your credit, the post you quoted is probably the most lucid description of what you're trying to get at you've posted thus far (that I've seen).
That being said, it doesn't actually help anything.
Yes, the configuration is new, and every component is 35 years old.AV1611VET said:Now you remove the handlebars from one, the seat from another, the chain from another, etc., and build a brand new bicycle from the parts of all these other bicycles.
Question: How old is this brand new bicycle?
That's exactly where I am.Or you. Truth can't contradict truth. If you'd be willing to go wherever truth leads, this wouldn't bother you in the least.
Thank you, sir!To your credit, the post you quoted is probably the most lucid description of what you're trying to get at you've posted thus far (that I've seen).
That being said, it doesn't actually help anything.
I'm not suggesting that at all. My goal there was simply to show that an object can have two different ages: one existential and one physical.How does this apply to our current Universe? Are you suggesting that our universe is made out of recycled parts of other universes? Why go through such great lengths?
Take Genesis 1 literally.Further, if you're to suggest that this universe would be "new" (I don't agree, but I'm running with it for now) what could I do to separate your claim from the claim that the universe was created last Tuesday, instantly and out of nothing, with all of our memories and the appearance of age built in.
You can't do that with science, either.In other words, you haven't given me a reliable way that I can go out into the world and make some judgment or measurement that would tell me "yes, AV is right and the last Tuesday guys are wrong".
King James version - John 2:7-10:If that was too complex I think you better had.Well, your simplified version sounds a bit too complex, so I'll stick with the King James version.
Just so we're on the same page here, 6016 or 6014?OK, do me a favour and tell me what was happening 6016 years ago, just so I'm clear.
I happen to have a PhD in Physics --- from the acclaimed Boxtop University.Do yourself a favour and put down the book by the Palestinian fishermen and pick something else up, preferably with 'Physics' in the title.
How does a universe expand to 156 billion light years wide within 13.7 billion years unless it was expanding faster than light speed?This is not Star Trek, nobody is talking about faster than light travel.
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