Evolution or descent with modification?

[Yttrium]

The flood destroyed Adam's small world in a GLOBAL flood for Adam's firmament which was made the 2nd Day. This released the 450 ft Ark into Lake Van, Turkey, as Adam's small flat Earth sank into the Lake. The Ark made it to shore and Noah's grandsons had a half Million prehistoric women to chase.

Humans are Adam's descendants who first arrived on this planet 11k years ago. Noah was the FIRST Human to step on planet Earth. There were already some one Million prehistoric people (sons of God), who descended from the last universal common ancestor, whose origin was in WATER exactly as Genesis 1:21 states.

This needs a novelization and an anime series.

Is there a novelization? I've heard this version somewhere before, but I don't remember where.

 

[Kylie]

The flood destroyed Adam's small world in a GLOBAL flood for Adam's firmament which was made the 2nd Day. This released the 450 ft Ark into Lake Van, Turkey, as Adam's small flat Earth sank into the Lake. The Ark made it to shore and Noah's grandsons had a half Million prehistoric women to chase.

How did they survive the flood?

 

[Kylie]

Humans are Adam's descendants who first arrived on this planet 11k years ago. Noah was the FIRST Human to step on planet Earth. There were already some one Million prehistoric people (sons of God), who descended from the last universal common ancestor, whose origin was in WATER exactly as Genesis 1:21 states.

And another unsupported claim. Nice story.

 

[Aman777]

How did they survive the flood?

The flood took place on the 150th day after the flood began. On the first day, the windows on high were opened Gen 7:11 and it rained for forty days and nights. After 40 days and nights of rain, the ocean going sized Ark, lifted off the ground. Gen 7:17
The Ark was above the highest mountains on the 150th day after the flood began. Gen 7:20-24

On the SAME 150th day after the flood began, the Ark rested upon the mountains of Ararat. Genesis 8:4 Adam's firmament/Heaven sank in Lake Van, Turkey on the 150th day releasing the Ark into the Lake. This event happened 11k years ago and brought Humans (descendants of Adam) to our planet of Apes. History AGREES and shows that every trait of modern Humans came from this event.

 

[Kylie]

The flood took place on the 150th day after the flood began. On the first day, the windows on high were opened Gen 7:11 and it rained for forty days and nights. After 40 days and nights of rain, the ocean going sized Ark, lifted off the ground. Gen 7:17
The Ark was above the highest mountains on the 150th day after the flood began. Gen 7:20-24

On the SAME 150th day after the flood began, the Ark rested upon the mountains of Ararat. Genesis 8:4 Adam's firmament/Heaven sank in Lake Van, Turkey on the 150th day releasing the Ark into the Lake. This event happened 11k years ago and brought Humans (descendants of Adam) to our planet of Apes. History AGREES and shows that every trait of modern Humans came from this event.

So the flood began, but then the flood didn't happen for another six months or so?

Huh?

In any case, the flooding of a lake in Turkey doesn't match up with a worldwide flood as described in the Bible, does it?

And you have not provided a single source to back up your claim that all modern human traits come from this event. And no, posting your map picture doesn't count as evidence for human physical characteristics.

 

[Aman777]

So the flood began, but then the flood didn't happen for another six months or so?

Huh?

The flood was over in 150 days because Adam's firmament sank on that day and God promised to never again destroy the world with a world wide flood. Gen 9:11

In any case, the flooding of a lake in Turkey doesn't match up with a worldwide flood as described in the Bible, does it?

Sure it does and explains many of the "mysteries" which no scholar ever uncovered. What happened to the Raven? Why did the Dove return to the Ark and 7 days later bring "an olive leaf pluckt off"? Gen 8:11 How did the Olive Tree germinate in the mud, grow and put forth limbs and branches and olive leaves in just 7 days? It's simple, the Dove flew to the shore the second time Noah released him and found a living growing and leaf producing Olive Tree.

And you have not provided a single source to back up your claim that all modern human traits come from this event. And no, posting your map picture doesn't count as evidence for human physical characteristics.

It's because you don't understand the map which shows Mt Ararat with a Big Lake between Mt Ararat and the center of the Fertile Crescent, the Cradle of Human civilization on planet Earth. EVERY modern Human trait had its origin in the valleys just SW of Lake Van, Turkey. Just because you don't like History doesn't change it.
Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

 

[TLK Valentine]

The flood was over in 150 days because Adam's firmament sank on that day and God promised to never again destroy the world with a world wide flood.

That's not what you said before -- you said the flood happened on the 150th day after the flood began.

If it's a simple typo, fine. But some clarification is in order.

 

[Kylie]

The flood was over in 150 days because Adam's firmament sank on that day and God promised to never again destroy the world with a world wide flood. Gen 9:11



Sure it does and explains many of the "mysteries" which no scholar ever uncovered. What happened to the Raven? Why did the Dove return to the Ark and 7 days later bring "an olive leaf pluckt off"? Gen 8:11 How did the Olive Tree germinate in the mud, grow and put forth limbs and branches and olive leaves in just 7 days? It's simple, the Dove flew to the shore the second time Noah released him and found a living growing and leaf producing Olive Tree.



It's because you don't understand the map which shows Mt Ararat with a Big Lake between Mt Ararat and the center of the Fertile Crescent, the Cradle of Human civilization on planet Earth. EVERY modern Human trait had its origin in the valleys just SW of Lake Van, Turkey. Just because you don't like History doesn't change it.
Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

And yet the only way you can get evidence to support your theory is to take things from the story and try to explain why they are true. That's circular logic, and it does not support your position.

 

[TBDude65]

Correction: Today's scientists are baffled by dark energy since it turns gravity on its head. The Galaxies should be slowing but they are increasing in speed and scientists have NO idea why. God tells us that He created a Multiverse instead of a Universe.

Genesis 1:8 shows that the first Heaven/firmament was made the 2nd Day.
Genesis 2:4 shows that other Heavens (plural) were made the 3rd Day.

That makes at least 3 Heavens which were made by the beginning of the 3rd Day. The 3rd Heaven is much larger and more dense than today's small Universe. The larger 3rd Heaven is pulling the matter within our Universe to its destruction in total agreement with Gravity. Amen?

I'm still confused. An inability to explain a natural phenomenon, leads you to the conclusion of not only a god but your specific god...how?

 

[Aman777]

That's not what you said before -- you said the flood happened on the 150th day after the flood began.

If it's a simple typo, fine. But some clarification is in order.

The flood began on February 17th in the 600th year of Noah:

Gen 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

After 40 days and nights of rain, the 450 ft Ark left the ground. Gen 7:17

On the 150th day after the rain began, the flood covered the highest mountains Genesis 7:20-24 ...AND....Adam's small firmament sank in Lake Van, Turkey, releasing the 450 ft Ark into the Lake. On the SAME 150th day after the rain began, the Ark rested upon the mountains of Ararat. Genesis 8:4 It was July 17th when the Ark rested upon Lake Van, 150 days or 5 months from February 17th until July 17th.

Can you tell us what happened between Genesis 7:24 and Genesis 8:4?

 

[Aman777]

And yet the only way you can get evidence to support your theory is to take things from the story and try to explain why they are true. That's circular logic, and it does not support your position.

It's better than taking the flawed view of some scientists, who have NO evidence how Apes changed into people, with the highest intelligence in creation. They cannot explain the process, nor repeat their "beliefs" but can only point to another mortal man's view, which agrees with theirs, while ignoring God's Holy Word. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

I'm still confused. An inability to explain a natural phenomenon, leads you to the conclusion of not only a god but your specific god...how?

Today's scientists have ignored Genesis which clearly explains that God made at least 3 Universes within our Multiverse. Our Universe is small when compared to the 3rd Heaven. One city there is 1500 miles square and in 1500 miles in elevation. This means that Gravity, which attracts smaller matter (our world) with its more dense and much larger mass, is working just fine. Tell the speculators that we are being drawn toward the next world so they can stop proclaiming their ignorance by calling plain old Gravity, "dark energy". I didn't write Genesis. I just read it.

 

[Ophiolite]

It's better than taking the flawed view of some scientists, who have NO evidence how Apes changed into people, with the highest intelligence in creation. They cannot explain the process, nor repeat their "beliefs" but can only point to another mortal man's view, which agrees with theirs, while ignoring God's Holy Word. Amen?

You have diverted the topic of this thread to your eccentric retelling of Biblical History. What science has or has not done is irrelevant to the total lack of evidence for your fairy story. If you were to behave courteously you would restrict discussion of your unique world view to a single thread on this forum. You don't do this. The conclusion is obvious.

 

[Aman777]

You have diverted the topic of this thread to your eccentric retelling of Biblical History. What science has or has not done is irrelevant to the total lack of evidence for your fairy story. If you were to behave courteously you would restrict discussion of your unique world view to a single thread on this forum. You don't do this. The conclusion is obvious.

FYI, I am the original poster. If you don't like my thread, I'm sorry. Do you restrict your discussion to one topic which you started? Why are you so afraid of the current scientific view? Is it because you know that God's Truth is above your's?

 

[Ophiolite]

FYI, I am the original poster. If you don't like my thread, I'm sorry. Do you restrict your discussion to one topic which you started? Why are you so afraid of the current scientific view? Is it because you know that God's Truth is above your's?

You are ignorant of the current scientific view. Your fairy tale stories are a constant annoyance on the forum. I have seen nothing of value in any of the hundreds of your posts I have read. What I have witnessed is a general, ongoing, discourtesy and indifference to every other member. What puzzles me most is how I managed to take you off Ignore. Please just go away.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Can you tell us what happened between Genesis 7:24 and Genesis 8:4?

Everything from Genesis 7:25 to Genesis 8:3.

 

[Kylie]

It's better than taking the flawed view of some scientists, who have NO evidence how Apes changed into people, with the highest intelligence in creation. They cannot explain the process, nor repeat their "beliefs" but can only point to another mortal man's view, which agrees with theirs, while ignoring God's Holy Word. Amen?

They can and have explained how it happened, and there is a huge amount of evidence.

 

[Kylie]

Everything from Genesis 7:25 to Genesis 8:3.

 

[Aman777]

Everything from Genesis 7:25 to Genesis 8:3.

Gen 8:1 ¶ And God remembered Noah, and every living thing, and all the cattle that was with him in the ark: and God made a wind to pass over the earth, and the waters asswaged;

The Hebrew word asswaged/shakak has two meanings. One is to assuage and the other is used to set a trap to catch men.

Jer 5:26 For among my people are found wicked men: they lay wait, as He that setteth H7918/shakak snares; they set a trap, they catch men.

Did God set a trap or snare with the flood? Of course He did and He catches men in His snare at the end of time.

Isa 24:17 Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth. Isa 24:18 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare:

See? At the end of time, when many shall come out of the pit and think that they have escaped punishment, they are taken in God's snare or trap. The rest of the verse identifies the snare as the flood story which most scientists reject.

for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake.
Isa 24:19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

The Hebrew word asswaged/shakak has two meanings. One is to assuage and the other is used to set a trap to catch men.

I bet you can't support that claim. Shakak does not mean to set a trap.

The rest of your post is incorrect, and very dishonest to highlight the word "snare" where it is not from the hebrew shakak. But then honesty is not something you particularly care about, is it?