Evolution or Creationism?

[bhsmte]

I never claimed to be the voice of God and openly admit my faith. I don't tried to set myself above others.

You certainly claim to know more than real biologists do, about biology.

 

[Smidlee]

You are all over the place.

You stated if you wanted to know biology, you would go to a biologist and a chemist for chemistry. Since that time, you stated there are no biologists who know real biology, so why would you go to a biologist, if they don't know real biology?

And no one goes to a biologist for all knowledge, they go to them for knowledge on biology.

Exactly and if I want to know something about biologist to go to the Creator of biologist. I don't go the a biologist to learn the origins of biologists.

 

[bhsmte]

Exactly and if I want to know something about biologist to go to the Creator of biologist. I don't go the a biologist to learn the origins of biologists.

You stated you would go to a biologist to learn biology.

You are so mixed up, you can't keep track of what you have said.

 

[Smidlee]

You stated you would go to a biologist to learn biology.

You are so mixed up, you can't keep track of what you have said.

Biology is not the same as biologist. Human knowledge of biology is that which comes from the human mind ... exactly like the one I have.

 

[Loudmouth]

Biology is not the same as biologist. Human knowledge of biology is that which comes from the human mind ... exactly like the one I have.

So it is idolatry to use your brain?

 

[bhsmte]

Biology is not the same as biologist. Human knowledge of biology is that which comes from the human mind ... exactly like the one I have.

You are very entertaining.

 

[Smidlee]

So it is idolatry to use your brain?

An idol is when you use the product of your mind and claim this is how we got here. It's a substitution for God.

 

[phileas007]

Truth is truth long before some man said, "science".

1. Actually I can prove God, in myself. Your unbelief doesn't interest me.
2. We do not have to prove to any whom God is. God proves it inside every believer.
3. Science isn't God. Maybe for you? It is a creation. We are not foolish enough, by the grace of God, to worship creation.

Firstly you did not address anything in my comment at all!
Secondly your faith is your choice and I don't suppose anyone could possible convince you otherwise, so chill out.
If god was "provable" we would not be having this discussion

And now, can you explain what the 3rd point means, since I don't understand a word you said.

 

[phileas007]

An idol is when you use the product of your mind and claim this is how we got here. It's a substitution for God.

Exactly! this is why Yahweh is just an idol and a cheap surrogate for Brahma, the true creator of the world.

Oh God, when this form of yours assumed for blessing us
Taken of your own free will and wishes of your devotees
Is not capable of being understood within my mind,
How can I understand the divine holy form of yours?

 

[JasonClark]

It's a substitution for God.

There is only one substitute for an imaginary god and that's another imaginary god.

 

[Loudmouth]

An idol is when you use the product of your mind and claim this is how we got here. It's a substitution for God.

Confirmation that you have to stop using your brain in order to be a good Christian.

 

[Smidlee]

There is only one substitute for an imaginary god and that's another imaginary god.

Or for the real God. Counterfeit money is often substituted for real money.

Exactly! this is why Yahweh is just an idol and a cheap surrogate for Brahma, the true creator of the world.

So is Brahma the god you put your faith in?

Confirmation that you have to stop using your brain in order to be a good Christian.

Is that meant to be a personal insult?

 

[Astrophile]

I have read and heard a few biologist talk about dGRN and how they are interconnected something like a circuit board and would require "re-engineering" in order to change body plans. In order for evolution to be true they know these dGRN had to be a lot more flexible in the past than they are in the present since most resists change.

This has nothing to do with my previous post. I never mentioned dGRN, and didn't even know what they are until I looked them up. (They are discrete gene regulatory networks, whatever that means.) Unless you are asserting that dGRN make sexual reproduction impossible and that therefore what biologists say about our origin (and their origin) as individuals is false, all this about dGRN is irrelevant.

 

[Smidlee]

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This has nothing to do with my previous post. I never mentioned dGRN, and didn't even know what they are until I looked them up. (They are discrete gene regulatory networks, whatever that means.) Unless you are asserting that dGRN make sexual reproduction impossible and that therefore what biologists say about our origin (and their origin) as individuals is false, all this about dGRN is irrelevant.

dGRN only allows the embryos of each species develop in one way. dGRN is so interconnected it's intolerant to major changes.

 

[yesyoushould]

Then you can't claim that studying science is idolatry.

"Science" isn't bad. In fact, I enjoy science, it brings me closer to God. I certainly don't label finding truth, to be against God. I also do not call the truth, science. The same way I don't call "agnostic", "loudmouth".

 

[phileas007]

Or for the real God. Counterfeit money is often substituted for real money.

Last time I looked, money was man-made, so it's not a reasonable analogy for god, oh wait - no, you're absolutely right!

So is Brahma the god you put your faith in?

Why not, he's as good as any

"Science" isn't bad. In fact, I enjoy science, it brings me closer to God. I certainly don't label finding truth, to be against God. I also do not call the truth, science. The same way I don't call "agnostic", "loudmouth".

Of course science isn't bad and it's not "truth". I wonder what is?

PS: is there anything you do that doesn't bring you closer to god?

PPS: what do you call agnostics?

 

[Loudmouth]

Is that meant to be a personal insult?

Are you trying to insult us by calling evolution a religion?

 

[Astrophile]

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dGRN only allows the embryos of each species develop in one way. dGRN is so interconnected it's intolerant to major changes.

Do any of the real biologists who know about dGRNs think that they make evolution impossible?

 

[bhsmte]

Do any of the real biologists who know about dGRNs think that they make evolution impossible?

This poster has claimed, if he wants to know biology, he would go to a biologist. But if a biologist happens to state anything that goes against his religious belief, he is not a real biologist. So I guess, he knows real biology better than Phd biologists.

 

[Loudmouth]

Do any of the real biologists who know about dGRNs think that they make evolution impossible?

Going back to Smidlee's claim:

"dGRN only allows the embryos of each species develop in one way. dGRN is so interconnected it's intolerant to major changes."

dGRN's vary between species. Either:

1. those differences are "major", in which case the dGRN's can handle major changes, or . . .

2. there is very little difference between dGRN's, so evolution doesn't need to produce major changes in order to produce the biodiversity we see today.