Evolution or Creationism?

[Smidlee]

Are you trying to insult us by calling evolution a religion?

Can evolution be insulted? I explained when evolution explains away the scientist then it becomes a religion. Bacteria antibiotic resistance for example of evolution would not be included as religion since it doesn't explain away the scientist.

Do any of the real biologists who know about dGRNs think that they make evolution impossible?

According to Davidson for evolution to be possible then dGRN had to be a lot more flexible in the past than they are today. They are so interconnected like a circuit board that serious changes results in death. Since His faith is in evolution he assume it was. Some development biologist refers them as "toolkits" that have long disappeared. So they have no evidence that they were more flexible in the past.

 

[Smidlee]

Last time I looked, money was man-made, so it's not a reasonable analogy for god, oh wait - no, you're absolutely right!


Why not, he's as good as any

Why not come out and tell exactly what you believe in.

 

[Loudmouth]

Can evolution be insulted?

Are you trying to insult us by calling science a form of idolatry?

I explained when evolution explains away the scientist then it becomes a religion.

You can say it as many times as you like. It is ridiculous. You might as well claim that atom theory is idolatry because it explains what the scientist is made of.

Bacteria antibiotic resistance for example of evolution would not be included as religion since it doesn't explain away the scientist.

Including H. sapiens does not make something a religion.

According to Davidson for evolution to be possible then dGRN had to be a lot more flexible in the past than they are today.

Sounds like you found your solution.

They are so interconnected like a circuit board that serious changes results in death.

Where did you show this for species early on in metazoan evolution?

 

[Smidlee]

Are you trying to insult us by calling science a form of idolatry?

The act of idolatry is man taking his own creation and claiming it is how he got here.

You can say it as many times as you like. It is ridiculous. You might as well claim that atom theory is idolatry because it explains what the scientist is made of.

It's totally logical. You can't use your biological brain to explain away your own existence. No one is using the atom theory to explain away man. This is why atheist defend biology madly against intelligent design since this science directly involves man.

 

[Loudmouth]

The act of idolatry is man taking his own creation and claiming it is how he got here.

Idolatry is not figuring out how nature works.

It's totally logical. You can't use your biological brain to explain away your own existence.

No one is "explaining away their own existence".

 

[Smidlee]

Idolatry is not figuring out how nature works.

in order to figure out how nature works man has to use his biological brain. no one can speak outside their head unless they are physical dead.

 

[Loudmouth]

in order to figure out how nature works man has to use his biological brain.

Using your brain is idolatry?

I think I may use that as my signature.

"in order to figure out how nature works man has to use his biological brain."--Smidlee

I bet FSTDT would love that one.

 

[Smidlee]

Using your brain is idolatry?

If you use your intellect (your brain) and speak as the voice of God of how you (man) got here (came into existence) then that's idolatry.

 

[Loudmouth]

If you use your intellect (your brain) and speak as the voice of god of how you got here then that's idolatry.

No one speaking as the voice of god.

 

[Smidlee]

No one speaking as the voice of god.

When a person tries to speak outside their own head then that's exactly what they are trying to do.

 

[Loudmouth]

When a person tries to speak outside their own head then that's exactly what they are trying to do.

Scientists speak out of their head, not outside of their head. Speaking on how nature works based on objective evidence is not religion or idolatry.

The real question is why you want it to be idolatry so bad.

 

[bhsmte]

When a person tries to speak outside their own head then that's exactly what they are trying to do.

You really mean, when a scientist speaks to something that disagrees with your personal religious beliefs and those beliefs must be protected at all costs.

 

[Smidlee]

You really mean, when a scientist speaks to something that disagrees with your personal religious beliefs and those beliefs must be protected at all costs.

Watch out there. You are handling a two edged sword so don't cut yourself. I made it clear that I don't treat scientist as the voice of God nor as high priest that is beyond questioning.

Scientists speak out of their head, not outside of their head. Speaking on how nature works based on objective evidence is not religion or idolatry.

The real question is why you want it to be idolatry so bad.

When man uses his own intellect to explain away his own existence then it's idolatry. The only way to know how nature work is by using our brain which evolutionist believe is the result of evolution which came from the human imagination.
Why do you try so hard deny your faith so bad?

 

[crjmurray]

Watch out there. You are handling a two edged sword so don't cut yourself. I made it clear that I don't treat scientist as the voice of God nor as high priest that is beyond questioning.

When man uses his own intellect to explain away his own existence then it's idolatry. The only way to know how nature work is by using our brain which evolutionist believe is the result of evolution which came from the human imagination.
Why do you try so hard deny your faith so bad?

It is idolatry to be aware that my parents had sex and the end result was me?

 

[phileas007]

Why not come out and tell exactly what you believe in.

It's stated in my profile

Watch out there. You are handling a two edged sword so don't cut yourself. I made it clear that I don't treat scientist as the voice of God nor as high priest that is beyond questioning.

so in your mind, some "high priest" is BEYOND QUESTIONING? Really?

When man uses his own intellect to explain away his own existence then it's idolatry. The only way to know how nature work is by using our brain which evolutionist believe is the result of evolution which came from the human imagination.
Why do you try so hard deny your faith so bad?

Once again you mix up faith with facts! Why are you so afraid of reality?

 

[Astrophile]

According to Davidson for evolution to be possible then dGRN had to be a lot more flexible in the past than they are today. They are so interconnected like a circuit board that serious changes results in death. Since His faith is in evolution he assume it was. Some development biologist refers them as "toolkits" that have long disappeared. So they have no evidence that they were more flexible in the past.

Did you get this from Stephen Meyer's book 'Darwin's Doubt', or was it from some other source?

 

[Astrophile]

The act of idolatry is man taking his own creation and claiming it is how he got here.

From an atheist's point of view, people who say that a god created the universe are doing exactly that; they are taking their own creation and claiming that it is how they got here.

 

[Loudmouth]

When man uses his own intellect to explain away his own existence then it's idolatry.

No, it isn't. No matter how many times you repeat this nonsense, it doesn't make it true. You might as well claim that putting butter on toast is idolatry. It makes as much sense.

The only way to know how nature work is by using our brain which evolutionist believe is the result of evolution which came from the human imagination.

Using evidence and your intelligence is not idolatry. Never has been.

Why do you try so hard deny your faith so bad?

Using evidence and intelligence is not faith.

 

[Smidlee]

It is idolatry to be aware that my parents had sex and the end result was me?

Who wrote anything about sex? Yes, sex can have something to do with idolatry.

Did you get this from Stephen Meyer's book 'Darwin's Doubt', or was it from some other source?

I've post Davidson paper many times in the past here.

 

[Smidlee]

From an atheist's point of view, people who say that a god created the universe are doing exactly that; they are taking their own creation and claiming that it is how they got here.

Nope since God is beyond human intelligence and is something "wired" into man.