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Evolution or Creationism?

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Smidlee

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Correction - the people that wrote the book said that a character called Jesus said ..... etc.
Obama is the President of the United States and I know this is true because people said he is the President and books and articles written by man sayings Obama is the President. I even watch TV which made by man where reporters call him the President.
My deed to my home and automobile is written by man , money is printed by man ,etc.
So what was your trying to prove?

The amazing thing about the Bible is while one day man will stop printing USA dollars as it will become worthless but the Bible will continue being printed as it's more valuable than gold which doesn't lose it's value.
 
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Obama is the President of the United States and I know this is true because people said he is the President and books and articles written by man sayings Obama is the President. I even watch TV which made by man where reporters call him the President.
My deed to my home and automobile is written by man , money is printed by man ,etc.
So what was your trying to prove?

The amazing thing about the Bible is while one day man will stop printing USA dollars as it will become worthless but the Bible will continue being printed as it's more valuable than gold which doesn't lose it's value.

Well that's not true.
 
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The gold part.
The problem with gold is it overall doesn't gain value either. It goes up and down according to the value of printed money but it doesn't become totally worthless which is the only point I was trying to make.
 
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Obama is the President of the United States and I know this is true because people said he is the President and books and articles written by man sayings Obama is the President. I even watch TV which made by man where reporters call him the President.
My deed to my home and automobile is written by man , money is printed by man ,etc.
So what was your trying to prove?

The amazing thing about the Bible is while one day man will stop printing USA dollars as it will become worthless but the Bible will continue being printed as it's more valuable than gold which doesn't lose it's value.

They have been copying the Hindu Vedas for longer. Are you going to convert to Hinduism?
 
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Obama is the President of the United States and I know this is true because people said he is the President and books and articles written by man sayings Obama is the President. I even watch TV which made by man where reporters call him the President.
My deed to my home and automobile is written by man , money is printed by man ,etc.
So what was your trying to prove?

The amazing thing about the Bible is while one day man will stop printing USA dollars as it will become worthless but the Bible will continue being printed as it's more valuable than gold which doesn't lose it's value.


The first part of that comment doesn't make sense. Obama is President because there is good tangible evidence that that is the case.

The Bible is just a book. One with deity sanctioned rape, genocide, slavery, etc. coupled with lots of nasty laws. Thankfully people ignore most of it and rightly consign huge sections of it to the dustbin of history. So it's already lost "value"

Gold today is around $1000 per ounce. Two years ago is was closer to $1800 an ounce.
 
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How - the Biblical stories weren't written until generations after the supposed events?
How do you know?

Were you there?

Luke 1:1 Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us,
Luke 1:2 Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word;
 
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How do you know?

Were you there?

Luke 1:1 Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us,
Luke 1:2 Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word;


No - as neither were you - so all we have is what people think and the supported view is that they wern't.
 
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No - as neither were you - so all we have is what people think
Welcome to the world of The-Bible-Says-It-That-Settles-It faith, my friend.

In that regard, we may be a minority; but then, it's a minority, not a majority, that's going to Heaven.*
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... and the supported view is that they wern't.
I would not expect it to be supported by consensus of opinion today.

* For you non-literalists: don't panic. I'm not saying you're going to Hell. I'm saying that when it comes to Jesus Christ and Him crucified, I'm sure you're a Bible-Settles-It saint as well.
 
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How - the Biblical stories weren't written until generations after the supposed events?
Jesus promised He would send His spirit, to absolutely ensure the men charged with telling us what He said got it right. God is the God of Abraham, and Moses and Daniel and etc. The events in the lives of people were brought up by God's spirit as examples for us, so the year that they happened is not the issue at all.
 
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Welcome to the world of The-Bible-Says-It-That-Settles-It faith, my friend.

In that regard, we may be a minority; but then, it's a minority, not a majority, that's going to Heaven.*I would not expect it to be supported by consensus of opinion today.

* For you non-literalists: don't panic. I'm not saying you're going to Hell. I'm saying that when it comes to Jesus Christ and Him crucified, I'm sure you're a Bible-Settles-It saint as well.


I actually agree with one thing you say (or infer) here - that an argument from popularity is not a good argument - though I disagree with everything else :)
 
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Jesus promised He would send His spirit, to absolutely ensure the men charged with telling us what He said got it right. God is the God of Abraham, and Moses and Daniel and etc. The events in the lives of people were brought up by God's spirit as examples for us, so the year that they happened is not the issue at all.


As this is an appeal to the supernatural it's not one I can reason with.
 
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The first part of that comment doesn't make sense. Obama is President because there is good tangible evidence that that is the case.

The Bible is just a book. One with deity sanctioned rape, genocide, slavery, etc. coupled with lots of nasty laws. Thankfully people ignore most of it and rightly consign huge sections of it to the dustbin of history. So it's already lost "value"

Gold today is around $1000 per ounce. Two years ago is was closer to $1800 an ounce.
Are you implying that gold has changed in value? Or are you implying that the dollar has changed in value?
 
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The first part of that comment doesn't make sense. Obama is President because there is good tangible evidence that that is the case.
There is even stronger evidence of Jesus Christ who had a huge impact on the world. How much impact do you think Obama will have two thousand years from now?
The Bible is just a book. One with deity sanctioned rape, genocide, slavery, etc. coupled with lots of nasty laws. Thankfully people ignore most of it and rightly consign huge sections of it to the dustbin of history. So it's already lost "value"
The Bible doesn't sanction rape, genocide nor slavery nor even divorce. It clear points out man can't be justified by the law.
Gold today is around $1000 per ounce. Two years ago is was closer to $1800 an ounce.
The reason gold goes up and down is the determine by the value of the dollar. Again while gold hold it's value yet you can't really profit from it either. Thus when people gain confident in the dollar (to make a profit) they will invest less in gold but when they less confident in the dollar they will invest heavily in gold in order to hold on what they have.
 
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