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I'm thinking thatBruce D McKay said:What I think about, I bring about.
The thought of success will foster success.
The thought of love will foster love.
The thought of evolution will foster
a personal debauchery, a disrespecting of God,
an ongoing process of discrediting Gods creation.
What am I thinking about today?
I don't suppose you took any digital photos of the trip, or brought back a piece of the Tree of Life, did you?Bruce D McKay said:Dear Evolv Earth...
Find it as incredible as you want! I have been OUT OF HERE and passed through one of those worm holes that bridges between this real and the next - and so I know what I am talking about.
So where is the evidence in the geological record to show this? After all, geological sciences was built on observing the rock strata and falsifying alternative hypotheses to the ones that are viewed as valid. Where is the evidence in the strata to show those geological sciences to be wrong?So here I am!!!!!!!!! And I am telling you that the whole gammet of the geological sciences is a token web of false logic from start to finish.
Since no one is doing this, we are OK. Now, that we can discredit what you are telling us is something different. You are neither God nor scripture, are you?Those who keep on denying God and trying to discredity everything about the scriptures will be caught so red handed in all their sins(!) that they will mostly die out of pure fright!
Oh, we can see the polar caps melting away. And the glaciers in Patagonia, too. However,that doesn't translate to the claims you are making. It means that the climate is warming and that sea levels rise, but not a huge tectonic shift that you are proposing, nor the eschatelogical conclusions you are drawing.if you can't see the polar ice capss melting away,
IIRC black holes do not contain wormholes normally (what goes in is crushed into a dimensionless point). A wormhole is a construct in space time similar to a black hole with 2 entrances, but have the disadvantage of collapsing when any matter is put through them. If our friend Bruce D. Mackay, Elijah has indeed been through a wormhole, he is a good deal less dimensionless than I would have expected.ThePhoenix said:Um, you do realize that wormholes are only found in the center of black holes, and what goes in most certainly does not come out, except as a mess of particles, unless you're claiming to have some understanding that science lacks... except all science is false... Except wormholes, which are true... What the?
1. Since about have of evolutionary biologists are theists, they do want Gode to exist.cottagerose said:It has been my experience that evolutionists and atheists admit that they really do not want God to exist,and that they want to be the boss of their own lives,not ever having to answer for the wrongs they do or the sins they commit
This argument seems a little thin when you consider that the worst wars in history have been theists killing theists. Some theists seem to want to destroy all other theists that don't believe exactly as they do. God never stopped that. Ah, speaking about destroying others that don't agree with you:,but when they finally do get what they want they will destroy one another and no one but God will stop them from killing every last one of them,
Not much room there for more than one religion, is there?God knows who will be saved,and Yes,it most definately will be part of the one world religion.
That could describe you. You appear to be deceived and disobedient toward God and what He has shown us in His Creation.Bruce D McKay said:"For we ourselves also were weak, sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another." (Titus 3:3)
Relevance to the subject? Evolution is not atheism and creationism is not belief in God."But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared.
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Gost; which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior." (Titus 3:4-6)
No one here is saying the gospels are a made-up story. We are saying, however, that creationism is a made up story that ignores God.I was sitting in church, praying about all this that goes on with those who claim to be evolutionists, and the Lord showed me this. I thought you might like to know. In II Peter 1:16 the apostle even wrote... "We have not followed a cleverly written-up story when we told you about the power and presence of our Lord Jesus Christ - we actually saw his majesty with our own eyes. He received honor and glory from God the Fahter himself when that voice said to him out of the sublime glory of Heaven, "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well plased." We actually head that foce speaking from Heaven while we were with him on the sacred mountain." (II Peter 1:16, Phillips translation.)
So why are you endangering that new life by believing creationism instead of God?Lastly, I want to share one of the most meaningfull verses in all the Bible with you. "For you have a new life. It was not passed on to you from your parents, for the life they gave you will fade away. This new one will alst forever, for it comes from Christ, God's ever-living Message to men." (I Peter 1:23, in the Living Bible)
Elijah
Is that true? Atheists DO NOT want God to exist? I thought they just didn't or couldn't believe, but would be more than willing to believe if there was suddenly reason to.lucaspa said:2. Yes, atheists do not want God to exist; that would invalidate their belief, but most atheists I have seen do believe people should answer for the wrongs they commit. After all, atheists support having laws, courts, and punishments.
No, it's not true. I, for one, would love it if God existed, and I would certainly be eager to believe if anyone could give me any evidence that he does.MQTA said:Is that true? Atheists DO NOT want God to exist? I thought they just didn't or couldn't believe, but would be more than willing to believe if there was suddenly reason to.
But you can't compress the mantle to half the size it is now. Such would collapse the electrons into the nucleus and you would have neutronium. There is no neutronium on the planet.Bruce D McKay said:Moreover, if you could take the mantle of the planet and compress it back down to about half it's current size - then you could slide North America and South America back into place where they once were - and there would be no VAST Pacific Ocean.
You had better provide the references, since a Google search didn't turn up the term.Go look in the geology books for "Carey's Gate," and you will find how William Carey described the shift of the whole Attic region, swininging open "like a gate."
It is true that the continents were up against one another about 230 million years ago. Look at Pangea on the web. But it is not true about "molecular forces". But I am curious, exactly what are these "molecular forces"?In that the Atlantic ocean can be closed in the same manner - then it is obviously true that the continents were all up against one another - prior to the last great shift in molecular foces!
- If the mantle expanded, then the mountain ranges would not be compressed, but rather stretched laterally. They should be no mountain ranges in your theory. Since there are, the theory is wrong.The mountain ranges all over the world have been pushed together from end to end - simply because each continent fit on a much more curved surface. When the mantle expanded, the continents tended to flaten out and the mountain ranges were thereby compressed laterally
You mean "geologists"? Geologists explain mountains as the result of collision of tectonic plates. When the plates collide, mountain ranges are pushed up due to the compression.WHICH IS THE WHOLE OF THE BIGGEST THING THAT NONE OF THE EVOLUTIONISTS COULD EVER EXPLAIN ABOUT ALL THE MOUNTAINS OF THIS WORLD!
And where were they before they were released? Remember, matter can't be created or destoyed.WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT THERE IS ABOUT HALF OF ALL THE WATERS THAT WERE RELEASED DURING THE FLOOD OF NOAH![
Not "somehow", geologists have worked out the mechanisms. It is known how the features of the planet came to be what they are today. And it isn't by your theory.Look how all that has "somehow evolved!"
Thanks. That's what I was thinking too. I think if God, um, appeared? sent a message to everyone? communicated? I'm sure He would know how to reveal Himself to all living beings at the very same time and Know what it would take for us all to believe.The Bellman said:No, it's not true. I, for one, would love it if God existed, and I would certainly be eager to believe if anyone could give me any evidence that he does.
Look at the atheist response to the papers on intercessory prayer. And then tell me if they are "willing to believe".MQTA said:Is that true? Atheists DO NOT want God to exist? I thought they just didn't or couldn't believe, but would be more than willing to believe if there was suddenly reason to.
This might well be the biggest load of rubbish I've ever read on these forums. Once again equating evolutionists with atheists, which is completely false. And talking about atheists killing each other...when theists have been killing each other over who has the right god for millenia!cottagerose said:It has been my experience that evolutionists and atheists admit that they really do not want God to exist,and that they want to be the boss of their own lives,not ever having to answer for the wrongs they do or the sins they commit,but when they finally do get what they want they will destroy one another and no one but God will stop them from killing every last one of them,then they will face judgment.We don't have to worry about them at all,God knows who will be saved,and Yes,it most definately will be part of the one world religion. When freedom to sin is given to the nasty,they kill each other.History proves it.
Got any links? I still don't think it's that they don't WANT to believe, they just don't see any reason believe and therefore respond to what they think is absurd as they do.lucaspa said:Look at the atheist response to the papers on intercessory prayer. And then tell me if they are "willing to believe".I used to think creationists were viscious until I read those reviews.
Translation: geological science is based on hypotheses that have NOT YET been falsifed. Given enough time, just about all of man's hypotheses end up being falsified. That does not make the observation any less valid. But a valid observation does not make for a valid hypotheses.lucaspa said:So where is the evidence in the geological record to show this? After all, geological sciences was built on observing the rock strata and falsifying alternative hypotheses to the ones that are viewed as valid.
how sweet; you cut-and-pasted my own sig line.Bruce D McKay said:"To argue with a man who has renounced his reason is like giving medicine to the dead." -- Thomas Paine
Pearls? Where?pearls, pearls, pearls . . .
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