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Evolution is not science

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is it possible the disciples took his body?
No.

Matthew was Jesus' disciple.

Scientists say that no one will die for something they know is a fabrication.

So if Matthew lied about the Resurrection, then it would not be possible for him to die a martyr's death.
 
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to be frank The Bible teaches that if you take part in Christianity’s indoctrination rituals they will transform you into a higher form of life who deserves eternal peace and joy. The message of eternal salvation contradicts the Bible’s teachings on original sin, because even after you’re saved you’re still a sinner until you die. This contradicting message will tear your minds in two directions creating cognitive dissonance and possibly a bipolar disorder and/or split personality. If nothing else it’s a recipe for deep rooted anxiety
 
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Least of which you don't have evidence for. Nice try.

I don't need evidence for.

You do.

I'm [especially] blessed without it.

John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
 
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No.

Matthew was Jesus' disciple.

Scientists say that no one will die for something they know is a fabrication.

So if Matthew lied about the Resurrection, then it would not be possible for him to die a martyr's death.
did he? remember many soldiers died for Hitler
 
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I don't need evidence for.

You do.

I'm [especially] blessed without it.

John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

If you want to be taken seriously, you'll need some. Anything.

Otherwise, it's just known as religious faith.
 
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to be frank The Bible teaches that if you take part in Christianity’s indoctrination rituals they will transform you into a higher form of life who deserves eternal peace and joy. The message of eternal salvation contradicts the Bible’s teachings on original sin, because even after you’re saved you’re still a sinner until you die. This contradicting message will tear your minds in two directions creating cognitive dissonance and possibly a bipolar disorder and/or split personality. If nothing else it’s a recipe for deep rooted anxiety
Oh, please.

Ever heard of the doctrine of Imputation?

Romans 4:8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

I used to be a sinner.

Now I'm a sinner saved by grace.
 
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did he? remember many soldiers died for Hitler

Which of those soldiers fabricated a lie, then died for that very lie?

Yes ... some can die for what they THINK is true, but isn't.

But no one will die for what they KNOW isn't true.
 
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Which of those soldiers fabricated a lie, then died for that very lie?

Yes ... some can die for what they THINK is true, but isn't.

But no one will die for what they KNOW isn't true.

Hitler was their king and told them many lies and they died for those lies
 
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If you want to be taken seriously, you'll need some. Anything.

Yes, I know.

You have the mentality of the Roman centurion.

Matthew 27:54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.
 
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Which of those soldiers fabricated a lie, then died for that very lie?

Yes ... some can die for what they THINK is true, but isn't.

But no one will die for what they KNOW isn't true.

You know nothing of human psychology, quit pretending like you do.
 
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Hitler was their king and told them many lies and they died for those lies

Yes, Hitler told them; they didn't tell Hitler.

There's a difference.

Again:

If someone makes up a lie, then gets persecuted for it, he will admit the lie.

If Joe comes up missing, and I say I murdered him (but didn't), I'll admit my lie before I go to the electric chair for it.

If Joe comes up missing, and I say I murdered him, and Tom believes my lie; Tom just may go to his grave believing me.
 
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Yes, Hitler told them; they didn't tell Hitler.

There's a difference.

Again:

If someone makes up a lie, then gets persecuted for it, he will admit the lie.

Not necessarily -- depends on why the lie is told.

Sometimes even a lie is worth sacrifice.

If Joe comes up missing, and I say I murdered him (but didn't), I'll admit my lie before I go to the electric chair for it.

You didn't kill Joe; your daughter did.

Would you die to save her life?

If Joe comes up missing, and I say I murdered him, and Tom believes my lie; Tom just may go to his grave believing me.

Which is the whole point of the lie.
 
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Which is the whole point of the lie.

I'm not going to argue the point.

If you guys want to talk yourselves out of understanding, don't let me stop you.
 
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The fairytale of evolution just gets now even more laughable.

In his introduction to evolution and ecology class, Dr. Stephen C. Stearns of Yale has said:

“I think it is possible for redwood trees to evolve into squid – I just think it takes them a very long time”.
 
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I'm not going to argue the point.

If you guys want to talk yourselves out of understanding, don't let me stop you.

We were talking you into understanding -- no wonder you stopped us.
 
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Evolutionists say creationism is not science because it has not been observed, however nor has evolution. Yet when it comes to their faith in a non-observable process, suddenly the non-observable becomes "science".

Evolutionist Jerry Coyne admits macroevolution can not be observed:

“Further, we shouldn’t expect to see more than small changes in one or a few features of a species—what is known as macroevolutionary change. Given the gradual pace of evolution, it’s unreasonable to expect to see selection transforming one “type” of plant or animal into another—so-called macroevolution—within a human lifetime."
 
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Evolutionists say creationism is not science because it has not been observed, however nor has evolution. Yet when it comes to their faith in a non-observable process, suddenly the non-observable becomes "science".

Evolutionist Jerry Coyne admits macroevolution can not be observed:

“Further, we shouldn’t expect to see more than small changes in one or a few features of a species—what is known as macroevolutionary change. Given the gradual pace of evolution, it’s unreasonable to expect to see selection transforming one “type” of plant or animal into another—so-called macroevolution—within a human lifetime."
I don't think this is taught in higher aceldama.
 
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The fairytale of evolution just gets now even more laughable.

In his introduction to evolution and ecology class, Dr. Stephen C. Stearns of Yale has said:

“I think it is possible for redwood trees to evolve into squid – I just think it takes them a very long time”.

Were you in attendance?
 
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