• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

Evolution is not really a theory

AV1611VET

SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE
Site Supporter
Jun 18, 2006
3,855,100
52,400
Guam
✟5,110,279.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Nando Roneteltap, you still haven't answered my question: But how can DNA and single celled organisms express free will, when they don't have the cognitive abilities to even know what a free will is?
You don't know my sister, or you woudn't be asking this.
 
Upvote 0

Nando Ronteltap

Active Member
Apr 2, 2019
117
16
54
Amsterdam
✟4,632.00
Country
Netherlands
Gender
Male
Faith
Muslim
Marital Status
In Relationship
You are not reasoning properly. If you want to claim that free will exists the burden of proof lies upon you. When you utterly fail at supporting your claim it is not denial to say "I don't believe you."

Already answererd. We all basically have the same evidence of free will.
 
Upvote 0

Ttalkkugjil

Social Pastor
Mar 6, 2019
1,680
908
Suwon
✟42,072.00
Country
Korea, Republic Of
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
CA-Others
Star formation is. Science is not limited to a laboratory no matter how many laymen demand it be so.

Here's the fun part, we're discussing living organisms on this thread - not stars.
 
Upvote 0

Belk

Senior Member
Site Supporter
Dec 21, 2005
30,485
14,954
Seattle
✟1,124,462.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Married
Perhaps start a new thread for your point... whatever it was.

No, since it was pointing out how your claim that evolution must be observed in a lab to be valid is incorrect. :wave:
 
Upvote 0

Ttalkkugjil

Social Pastor
Mar 6, 2019
1,680
908
Suwon
✟42,072.00
Country
Korea, Republic Of
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
CA-Others
No, since it was pointing out how your claim that evolution must be observed in a lab to be valid is incorrect. :wave:

No it didn't. And, again, if you want to discuss star formation - start a new thread.
 
Upvote 0

Ttalkkugjil

Social Pastor
Mar 6, 2019
1,680
908
Suwon
✟42,072.00
Country
Korea, Republic Of
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
CA-Others
Yes, it did. Do you want me to walk you through it? I would be happy to explain. :)

Not discussing star formation with you any further on this thread. You may start a new thread if you desire to go on about it.
 
Upvote 0

Belk

Senior Member
Site Supporter
Dec 21, 2005
30,485
14,954
Seattle
✟1,124,462.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Married
Not discussing star formation with you any further on this thread. You may start a new thread if you desire to go on about it.

I can go on about it in this thread as well. Do you wish to understand why it points out your error in claiming we must observe things in a lab in order to be science?
 
Upvote 0

Ttalkkugjil

Social Pastor
Mar 6, 2019
1,680
908
Suwon
✟42,072.00
Country
Korea, Republic Of
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
CA-Others
I can go on about it in this thread as well. Do you wish to understand why it points out your error in claiming we must observe things in a lab in order to be science?

Putting you on "ignore" now so as to no more contribute to your derailing of this thread.
 
Upvote 0

Belk

Senior Member
Site Supporter
Dec 21, 2005
30,485
14,954
Seattle
✟1,124,462.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Married
Putting you on "ignore" now so as to no more contribute to your derailing of this thread.

Ah well, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him think.
 
Upvote 0

Nando Ronteltap

Active Member
Apr 2, 2019
117
16
54
Amsterdam
✟4,632.00
Country
Netherlands
Gender
Male
Faith
Muslim
Marital Status
In Relationship
So none then.

Okay, we have no evidence of free will, why believe that it exists?

You are just announcing yourself as an anti-scientist. It's just a psychological condition of denial that you put forward as if it was an argument.

Meanwhile everyone who accepts the fact choosing is real, and pays mind to how things are chosen in the universe, also supports some form of intelligent design theory. Because the evidence is consistent with it and points to it.

Your evaluation of creationism is meaningless because of you denial of free will. We are not communicating.
 
Upvote 0

Shemjaza

Regular Member
Site Supporter
Apr 17, 2006
6,411
3,969
47
✟1,099,248.00
Country
Australia
Gender
Male
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
Politics
AU-Greens
You are just announcing yourself as an anti-scientist. It's just a psychological condition of denial that you put forward as if it was an argument.

Meanwhile everyone who accepts the fact choosing is real, and pays mind to how things are chosen in the universe, also supports some form of intelligent design theory. Because the evidence is consistent with it and points to it.

Your evaluation of creationism is meaningless because of you denial of free will. We are not communicating.
The bit that I think everyone is having difficulty with is:
"pays mind to how things are chosen in the universe"

You have not made that clear. It's easy to find specific examples of choice, but you are implying that there is a general underlying truth that I can't see evidence for or even understand how it is supposed to work.

It almost seems like in your theology/philosophy choice is an analogue for "spirit" or "life force".

This is not an attempt to be flippant or insulting. I honestly find your explanations very unclear.
 
Upvote 0