Evolution is mathematically impossible

[OldWiseGuy]

As you should by now be well aware, the specific origin of life is irrelevant to the ToE, which is an explanation for the observed diversity of life, not its origins. That's why one of the assumptions is entities that can satisfy the requirements I gave earlier.

They don't know how life began but are certain that all the ingredients needed for evolution were packaged and ready when the event occurred.

 

[pitabread]

"People lie." -Dr. Gregory House

Unless I have reason to suspect otherwise I still have to take these claims at face value.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

They don't know how life began but are certain that all the ingredients needed for evolution were packaged and ready when the event occurred.

Living things exist and have existed for a very long time. That's all that's necessary.

 

[46AND2]

God and the Laws of Science: The Laws of Probability

Sorry, but this is not an adequate citation. It doesn't even quote Sagan. It's one person claiming that Sagan said that.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Sorry, but this is not an adequate citation. It doesn't even quote Sagan. It's one person claiming that Sagan said that.

I personally heard Sagan say words to that effect.

 

[Shemjaza]

I personally heard Sagan say words to that effect.

I suspect you are misremembering.

In addition your linked page has mistaken ideas about probability. The classic "Anything less then 10 to the minus 50 is impossible." which renders any particular poker games as impossible.

 

[46AND2]

I personally heard Sagan say words to that effect.

Sorry, you don't count as a citation, either.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Sorry, you don't count as a citation, either.

Don't be confused. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

 

[sfs]

What is this genetic evidence you ellude to?

Here is one piece of it.

 

[Tinker Grey]

Sorry, but this is not an adequate citation. It doesn't even quote Sagan. It's one person claiming that Sagan said that.

Yeah, I covered this back in post 718, to which, curiously, OWG never responded.

The article is about the Drake equation. Without buying the book, I think his source is lying (the fact that the actual page isn't available allows a margin of error).

 

[the iconoclast]

Here is one piece of it.

Hey hey brother

Before i consider your reply, It seems you may have missed 2 questions

1.
Lets consider the die that rolls or the coin that is flipped. The outcome may be unpredictable but the process involves a hand or human that is a catalyst for the event?

2.
Rain drops may be unpredictable to where they may land but the process which is the series of events that lead to rain are integral and there is a pattern?

Please do not ignore these as it gives the impression that you may not respect me or the questions asked. I feel they are important or i wouldnt have asked.

What u think?

Cheers

 

[the iconoclast]

Hey brother @Speedwell.

Waiting on your reply

 

[sfs]

1.
Lets consider the die that rolls or the coin that is flipped. The outcome may be unpredictable but the process involves a hand or human that is a catalyst for the event?

2.
Rain drops may be unpredictable to where they may land but the process which is the series of events that lead to rain are integral and there is a pattern?

Nope, I didn't miss them.

Please do not ignore these as it gives the impression that you may not respect me or the questions asked. I feel they are important or i wouldnt have asked.

Pressing me for answers on subjects other than the one we're supposed to be discussing -- evolution -- gives the impression that you don't respect me or my time.

What u think?

I think neither one has anything to do with evolution.

 

[Queller]

It's my gut feeling that I'm right (I have healthy guts).

That doesn't mean you're right. Your gut isn't objective. In fact, your "gut" isn't telling you anything at all. It's your brain.

 

[Queller]

What are the assumptions in evolution?

Mostly that the laws of nature and physics that operate now operated the same way in the past. And since there is no evidence (and there would be) that they operated differently in the past...

 

[Queller]

"People lie." -Dr. Gregory House

"You are people, aren't you?" Dr. Leonard Hofstadter

 

[sfs]

"People lie." -Dr. Gregory House

"Trust but verify." - Abraham Lincoln

 

[the iconoclast]

Nope, I didn't miss them.
Pressing me for answers on subjects other than the one we're supposed to be discussing -- evolution -- gives the impression that you don't respect me or my time.

Hey hey sfs

I respect and love you

Well saint i do not see anything you have done to address them. Why is that?

think neither one has anything to do with evolution.

Well dont be shy. Why do you think neither one has anything to do with evolution.

Hey hey @Speedwell. Waiting on your reply so you, sfs and i can continue. Sfs has replied with a link to mutations.

 

[Speedwell]

Hey hey sfs

I respect and love you

Well saint i do not see anything you have done to address them. Why is that?



Well dont be shy. Why do you think neither one has anything to do with evolution.

Hey hey @Speedwell. Waiting on your reply so you, sfs and i can continue. Sfs has replied with a link to mutations.

I thought I answered all your questions already. Why don't you ask it again?

 

[the iconoclast]

I thought I answered all your questions already. Why don't you ask it again?

Hey hey saint

Im not one to back away from asking questions

Ill get back to you soon