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No, they both evolved from an earlier life form--they have a common ancestor.Based on what I'm reading no one understands it.
So they don't evolve into an elephant?
Could you elaborate? I've done a pretty exhaustive look at evolution from a variety of perspectives, and I haven't come across anything that corroborates this general claimNo need for odds. Evolution is impossible by it's own definition and minimum requirements.
Could you elaborate? I've done a pretty exhaustive look at evolution from a variety of perspectives, and I haven't come across anything that corroborates this general claim
Sure. You think that if you trace evolution back far enough you will find some kind of a "gap" which natural processes could not have bridged. You won't. God didn't leave one.The organisms that 'began' the process didn't have the means to begin the process.
Sure. You think that if you trace evolution back far enough you will find some kind of a "gap" which natural processes could not have bridged.
So your issue is with what the definition is of the first living organism?The organisms that supposedly 'began' the process didn't have the means to begin the process, according the minimal requirements of the process. The required complexity of an organism before evolution can take place is astounding. It's a "chicken and egg" thing; scientific circular reasoning: The means of evolution must evolved before evolution can happen. Of course this is impossible.
No, they both evolved from an earlier life form--they have a common ancestor.
Not if you didn't understand that chemical schematic I posted for you. Let's just leave it that there is no "gap" for you to fit your God into, and mine doesn't need one.Can you explain the origin of the means of evolution?
So your issue is with what the definition is of the first living organism?
Not if you didn't understand that chemical schematic I posted for you. Let's just leave it that there is no "gap" for you to fit your God into, and mine doesn't need one.
The issue seems to be how you think it is defined. What would be the primary issue with defining the very first living organism? The is specifically complicated by what the best definition of life is such that it would enable us to define what is clearly life from non-life. How do you define life?The first life form able to evolve, and how was that ability obtained?
The issue seems to be how you think it is defined. What would be the primary issue with defining the very first living organism? The is specifically complicated by what the best definition of life is such that it would enable us to define what is clearly life from non-life. How do you define life?
Your initial objection you cited has nothing to do with showing that evolution is impossible among living organisms (at any level, single- to multicellular). You cited an issue with how evolution can begin in the absence of life. What we have is a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means for something to be "alive" and simplest and most basic levelI'm questioning the ability to evolve, not how life began. How did an organism obtain the ability to evolve? Further, how did an organism even become an organism before it obtained the ability to evolve?
What's the difference? Being able to reproduce is one of the characteristics of life.
Your initial objection you cited has nothing to do with showing that evolution is impossible among living organisms (at any level, single- to multicellular). You cited an issue with how evolution can begin in the absence of life. What we have is a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means for something to be "alive" and simplest and most basic level
Of life, period, whether it was "created" in some way according to your religion or God had it emerge through the action of natural process. Saying that living things have the ability to reproduce is merely a definition of life, not a statement about how living things came to be.Of created life, yes.
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