Evolution is mathematically impossible

[OldWiseGuy]

Using creationist type mathematical odds argumentation, I can debunk the theory that you were born, making it far more impossible than evolution according to the OP.

Interesting.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

[citation still needed]

I'm surprised that I'm the only one who has heard this.

 

[pitabread]

I myself personally heard Carl Sagan say this some years ago.

 

[pitabread]

This is just a silly argument. There are special forums for debates.

I think you missed the point. If creationists debated only what they understood, they would never debate science and evolution.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I think you missed the point. If creationists debated only what they understood, they would never debate science and evolution.

We would if we could choose the topic, in which case science would never enter the debate.

 

[pitabread]

We would if we could choose the topic, in which case science would never enter the debate.

I don't know what you mean by "choose the topic".

It's creationists who have chosen to go to war with science over creationist religious beliefs. Historically speaking, that's never gone well for religion.

 

[VirOptimus]

Not debating, just rendering my thoughts.

There are things you cant have opinions on, this is such a thing. You are in error.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I don't know what you mean by "choose the topic".

It's creationists who have chosen to go to war with science over creationist religious beliefs. Historically speaking, that's never gone well for religion.

A battle, war really, not yet decided.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

There are things you cant have opinions on, this is such a thing. You are in error.

It's a considered opinion, therefore valid.

 

[Speedwell]

It's a considered opinion, therefore valid.

But not necessarily correct.

 

[VirOptimus]

It's a considered opinion, therefore valid.

Nope, its just wrong.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

But not necessarily correct.

Certainly not politically correct.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Nope, its just wrong.

News at eleven (sometime in the future).

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Moving on.

 

[VirOptimus]

News at eleven (sometime in the future).

Yes, I know. So why do you persist?

 

[pitabread]

A battle, war really, not yet decided.

It was decided centuries ago. Creationists just ignored the memo.

 

[tas8831]

The recent observation of molecular convergence in many species poses impossible mathematical challenges to evolution. I would be interested to know how this can be refuted... maskofscience.com

So, you gave up on your "beautiful fish" refutation of evolution - was it when you realized that lots of fish are ugly?

 

[tas8831]

That's just a typical junk probability calculation.

The author claims to be taking natural selection into account, but then completely ignores it in their actual calculation which is based strictly on pure chance.

The end result is a meaningless probability that has no basis on what they claim to be modeling (convergent evolution).

He is a pathologist. Probably never had a class on genetics or evolution in his education. It is the ego thing.

 

[tas8831]

Just your everyday garden variety mathematical odds are sufficient to debunk evolution.

Ah yes - the tired old off the cuff assertions with ZERO back up - just the usual ego gratification from the guy that thinks motor impulses are generated by sensory neurons in the gut and/or aorta and go directly to the larynx.

IOW - nothing to see here.

 

[tas8831]

No need. Use your own.

IOW - he can't. He just does what the desperate and under-informed creationist zealot must do to convince themselves that Yahweh will allow them into fake heaven.