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DNA does make sense in context. If the sequences were coded in a different order it wouldn't result in anything because it'd be meaningless.You completely ignore an extremely important part of what you wrote:
DNA....makes sense in context.
Your linguistic argument changes the context in an attempt to demonstrate it doesn't make sense.
If you just want to play the equivocation card, then allow me to point out that "Am Anfang war die Information" is gibberish as an English sentence.
You (and Werner Gitt) are confounding message with information. No doubt you are concerned with the telological implications of evolution, but you are working too hard to find Telos encoded in the information of DNA.I'll try to put it simple:
DNA is like a book containing the genetic information. The sentences (aka sequences) are coherent and make sense in context. A mutation is a random change to this book. Most mutations just scramble a few words or sentences - which means the information of those sequences got lost. Some mutations outright delete a sequence - which means the information of those sequences got lost. And some mutations duplicate a sequence - like writing a sentence twice. This doesn't just disturb the flow of reading but it also doesn't add any information. You can read the same sentence a hundred times - you still only get the same information from it.
In order to add information we need a mutation that adds a word, sentence or page to the book that is not only coherent in itself but also makes sense in the context of the entire book. None of the observed mutations has ever done that (and the chances for it are zero).
If you'd like more detailed information I recommend the book "Am Anfang war die Information" by Werner Gitt.
Seems to me it was Feynman who said most of the secrets ofYou (and Werner Gitt) are confounding message with information. No doubt you are concerned with the telological implications of evolution, but you are working too hard to find Telos encoded in the information of DNA.
DNA is not a language so changing the context is a nonsense argument. I can equivocate with linguistic examples to show your assertion is rubbish. But I expect you'd quite rightly point out that I was cherry picking examples out of context..... while not recognising that's exactly what your "DNA is like a book" argument is doing.DNA does make sense in context. If the sequences were coded in a different order it wouldn't result in anything because it'd be meaningless.
It would not hurt to read a book about the complexity of the genetic code. It is more complex than any human-developed computer and more efficient than a modern OS.You (and Werner Gitt) are confounding message with information. No doubt you are concerned with the telological implications of evolution, but you are working too hard to find Telos encoded in the information of DNA.
Yet more equivocation. Do you have anything else?It would not hurt to read a book about the complexity of the genetic code. It is more complex than any human-developed computer and more efficient than a modern OS.
Complexity is irrelevant.It would not hurt to read a book about the complexity of the genetic code. It is more complex than any human-developed computer and more efficient than a modern OS.
The salvation of the lost.
It would not hurt to read a book about the complexity of the genetic code. It is more complex than any human-developed computer and more efficient than a modern OS.
I'll try to put it simple:
DNA is like a book containing the genetic information. The sentences (aka sequences) are coherent and make sense in context. A mutation is a random change to this book. Most mutations just scramble a few words or sentences - which means the information of those sequences got lost. Some mutations outright delete a sequence - which means the information of those sequences got lost. And some mutations duplicate a sequence - like writing a sentence twice. This doesn't just disturb the flow of reading but it also doesn't add any information. You can read the same sentence a hundred times - you still only get the same information from it.
In order to add information we need a mutation that adds a word, sentence or page to the book that is not only coherent in itself but also makes sense in the context of the entire book. None of the observed mutations has ever done that (and the chances for it are zero).
If you'd like more detailed information I recommend the book "Am Anfang war die Information" by Werner Gitt.
It would not hurt to read a book about the complexity of the genetic code. It is more complex than any human-developed computer and more efficient than a modern OS.
And some mutations duplicate a sequence - like writing a sentence twice. This doesn't just disturb the flow of reading but it also doesn't add any information. You can read the same sentence a hundred times - you still only get the same information from it.
It is said that an image is worth a 1000 words.I'll try to put it simple:
DNA is like a book containing the genetic information. The sentences (aka sequences) are coherent and make sense in context. A mutation is a random change to this book. Most mutations just scramble a few words or sentences - which means the information of those sequences got lost. Some mutations outright delete a sequence - which means the information of those sequences got lost. And some mutations duplicate a sequence - like writing a sentence twice. This doesn't just disturb the flow of reading but it also doesn't add any information. You can read the same sentence a hundred times - you still only get the same information from it.
In order to add information we need a mutation that adds a word, sentence or page to the book that is not only coherent in itself but also makes sense in the context of the entire book. None of the observed mutations has ever done that (and the chances for it are zero).
If you'd like more detailed information I recommend the book "Am Anfang war die Information" by Werner Gitt.
It is said that an image is worth a 1000 words.
Even more obvious when anti-science types present the out of context quote about the extermination of 'savages'.This is something I see nearly always pop up when evolution is discussed.
Someone invariable goes "Well, evolution says..." or evolution gets treated as some sort of philosophy with tenets to follow.
It simply isn't.
Evolution is a descriptor given to a fact of biology; that animal populations change in response to external pressures. Evolution is not about what a population of animals should do, evolution is about what a population of animals will do.
The theory of evolution is also not something that is prescriptive either, like many people who feel it is a bad thing treat it to be. The theory of evolution merely talks about the minutia, the mechanics, of evolution.
Should be simple, right?
Ah, old Lee Spetner - he also, oddly, added his name to the group of numbskulls that tried to claim 1 of the 8 Archaeopteryx fossils available at the time was a forgery. So astounding was their "scientific" analysis, that it was eventually published. In a British photography magazine.Biophysicist Lee Spetner wrote an entire book showing with detailed probabilistic analysis that information-adding mutations are completely precluded. He also examines the classical textbook cases of mutations cited in favor of neo-Darwinian evolution and shows conclusively that, without exception, they are all losses of information.
What is this denial predicated on? Desires for it not to be?You are conflating or equating species adaptation with evolution. Theistic Creationist believe in that, but deny the notion that species somehow transform into other species given a great amount of time etc.
Please DEFINE information in a biologically relevant and tested fashion.All mutations that have ever been observed are a loss of information. Evolution requires mutations that add information. That has never been observed.
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