Evolution is a story

[jerrygab2]

--- invented by man
--- in order to exclude God from his life.

Dr Henry M. Morris III
ICR.ORG

True/False ?

True

 

[juvenissun]

But "having value to humans" is not exactly a specific trend in evolution.

See a wider picture and longer history, you will see the trend.

 

[Speedwell]

Is there a "quality" difference between you and a monkey?
You may say no. Then I will shut up.

Which may well not be due to evolution.

 

[Shemjaza]

See a wider picture and longer history, you will see the trend.

The majority of life by diversity, number and biomass are not very intelligent.

Maybe you can be more specific?

 

[joshua 1 9]

It's hard to know who's parodying who on this thread so far.

So they still follow Po's law here even though Po does not want us to know who he is?

 

[joshua 1 9]

am I to conclude that Darwin was a phony-Christian?

Darwin studied William Paley's Evidences of Christianity, becoming so delighted with Paley's logic that he learnt it well. (wiki)

 

[AV1611VET]

So they still follow Po's law here even though Po does not want us to know who he is?

Nathan Poe still posts here regularly.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Is there a "quality" difference between you and a monkey?
You may say no. Then I will shut up.

Did you understand my last post? Quality of what?

 

[juvenissun]

Which may well not be due to evolution.

Do you mean it is so because of God?
That interpretation also as a fatal problem.

 

[juvenissun]

The majority of life by diversity, number and biomass are not very intelligent.

Maybe you can be more specific?

Agree. Intelligence of extinct animals is hard to evaluate. But we could get an idea by looking at the level of intelligence of current animals.

And, good point, it is harder to describe the trend of evolution. I am not a biologist. Even I can see and feel the trend, I am not able to describe it precisely, even correctly.

This picture I posted illustrated the idea. It is most likely done by an evolutionist. And the trend shown is also the mental image of most evolutionists. May be they can describe what the trend is, even they strongly deny that evolution has a trend.

 

[juvenissun]

Did you understand my last post? Quality of what?

Quality of YOU, in contrast to that of monkey.
Do you know what is the quality difference between you and a monkey. If you don't, then I have nothing else to say to you.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

If that is the case why can't you mention even one of these supposed holes. And a friendly reminder, your inability to understand the theory of evolution does not mean that that is a hole.

Exactly my thoughts
I'm interested in the topic, but not with folk who don't understand the basics

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

Based on the mountains of evidence; false.

Hi there, always a man of few words

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Quality of YOU, in contrast to that of monkey.
Do you know what is the quality difference between you and a monkey. If you don't, then I have nothing else to say to you.

Quality in what way? Monkeys are better at climbing trees than humans are, so they have superior climbing quality to humans.

 

[Speedwell]

Agree. Intelligence of extinct animals is hard to evaluate. But we could get an idea by looking at the level of intelligence of current animals.

And, good point, it is harder to describe the trend of evolution. I am not a biologist. Even I can see and feel the trend, I am not able to describe it precisely, even correctly.

This picture I posted illustrated the idea. It is most likely done by an evolutionist. And the trend shown is also the mental image of most evolutionists. May be they can describe what the trend is, even they strongly deny that evolution has a trend.

ROFLMAO! You can believe that nonsense if you want, but you are going to have a hard time convincing anybody who actually understands the theory of evolution that they have to believe it.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Quality of YOU, in contrast to that of monkey.
Do you know what is the quality difference between you and a monkey. If you don't, then I have nothing else to say to you.

There are as many measures of quality as there are attributes and properties to judge.

For example, I'd consider myself qualitatively superior in most intellectual capabilities, but qualitatively inferior in most physical performance characteristics, except for dextrous manipulation and bipedal walking.

What's your point?

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

...This picture I posted illustrated the idea. It is most likely done by an evolutionist. And the trend shown is also the mental image of most evolutionists. May be they can describe what the trend is, even they strongly deny that evolution has a trend.

Evolution doesn't have any particular trend in the sense that it has no preferred direction. If you look at the results of evolution, you can, with hindsight, see changes and pattern of change in organisms over time; you could call these changes trends. Fundamentally, there is a trend towards adaptation to environmental pressures - this is due to natural selection, and it results in a trend towards diversification - this is called speciation.

 

[bhsmte]

Hi there, always a man of few words

All the words I needed.

 

[Shemjaza]

Agree. Intelligence of extinct animals is hard to evaluate. But we could get an idea by looking at the level of intelligence of current animals.

And, good point, it is harder to describe the trend of evolution. I am not a biologist. Even I can see and feel the trend, I am not able to describe it precisely, even correctly.

This picture I posted illustrated the idea. It is most likely done by an evolutionist. And the trend shown is also the mental image of most evolutionists. May be they can describe what the trend is, even they strongly deny that evolution has a trend.

When I said the majority I was talking about living species.

Also your trend is perfectly valid, as long as you only think of our own species ancestry. Off course that's going to appear like a progression towards intelligence, we're the most intelligent species ever to walk the Earth.

But if you were to take all life into account, then you wouldn't be able to demonstrate anything like a general trend towards intelligence.

 

[Speedwell]

Do you mean it is so because of God?
That interpretation also as a fatal problem.

No, that's not necessarily what I meant, but I would be interested to know what you thought the "fatal problem" might be.

All I meant was, that the theory of evolution does not at present offer a coherent explanation of how we acquired the self-aware intelligence which marks us out from the other creatures. It may have been caused by some other event or process.