Evolution is a story

[bhsmte]

I don't buy that interpretation. The environmental pressure today is not any higher than those in the past time. The earth is a stable planet.

What you 'buy' or not, has zero to do with well evidenced reality.

 

[juvenissun]

You tell me, it's your claim.

If you're thinking of complexity, when there is only the simplest life, it can either stay simple or increase in complexity, so there will be a tendency for some species to become more complex, and increased complexity has a selective advantage (e.g. predation);

Bacteria are simple. Why don't they all disappear through time?

 

[Speedwell]

Bacteria are simple. Why don't they all disappear through time?

Why should they, if they are adapted to their environment?

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Bacteria are simple. Why don't they all disappear through time?

As Speedwell says, they're well adapted to their environments, and they can reproduce and evolve fast enough to cope with most environmental changes (look how they've evolved antibiotic resistance in less than 100 years). There are probably more bacteria than any other form of life.

 

[AV1611VET]

I'd be interested to read any one of the Drs' footnotes, which relates directly to our discussion here --- good luck!

Well I went and looked at your profile and saw this:

one of the most respected authors of his generation in 19th century Scotland. He wrote over fifty books, nearly half of them novels for adults, along with some theological studies, several volumes of essays & criticism, a few volumes of poetry, and three best selling children's novels accompanied by a couple more volumes of fairytales.

I don't even know who you're talking about.

One of the 'most respected authors of his generation,' yet you don't bother to tell us his name.

In any ... ahem ... respect ... see if your respected author says anything about it.

I'm not going to type a bunch of Mr. Morris' notes out, only to have a scientific methodist tell me: he's "just a hydraulics engineer."

Better yet, get your hands on a Defender's Study Bible somehow and read them for yourself.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

1. I do SEE the long term trend. I won't call it a target.

If you focus on the few lineages that result in complex organisms you'll see a trend towards complexity; if you focus on the majority, you won't.

You've selected a small, exceptional sample, and appear to have convinced yourself the trend it shows is representative. It isn't.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Well I went and looked at your profile and saw this:I don't even know who you're talking about.

One of the 'most respected authors of his generation,' yet you don't bother to tell us his name.

In any ... ahem ... respect ... see if your respected author says anything about it.

I'm not going to type a bunch of Mr. Morris' notes out, only to have a scientific methodist tell me: he's "just a hydraulics engineer."

Better yet, get your hands on a Defender's Study Bible somehow and read them for yourself.

Google is your friend:

The George MacDonald Informational Web

And Morris was not "just a hydraulics engineer" he was an exceptionally dishonest hydraulics engineer.

 

[AV1611VET]

Google is your friend:

Isn't it a truism that the least number of steps required means the least potential for error?

And Morris was not "just a hydraulics engineer" he was an exceptionally dishonest hydraulics engineer.

Thanks for the QED.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Isn't it a truism that the least number of steps required means the least potential for error?

It took only one simple step to find that name.

Thanks for the QED.

Thank you for admitting that you were wrong.

 

[AV1611VET]

It took only one simple step to find that name.

So his signature is actually a challenge to use Google?

 

[Subduction Zone]

So his signature is actually a challenge to use Google?

Wrong. Try again.

 

[AV1611VET]

Wrong. Try again.

LOL

You're the one who went and Googled it.

Not I.

Besides, Lewis just might disagree with you.

Dunno.

He didn't even capitalize the first sentence.

Which, of course, is his prerogative.

 

[Subduction Zone]

LOL

You're the one who went and Googled it.

You asked a question I answered it for you. If you had done your own homework that would have been one step.

Not I.

Besides, Lewis just might disagree with you.

Dunno.

He didn't even capitalize the first sentence.

Which, of course, is his prerogative.

You mean him, the quote is not part of my sig.

 

[AV1611VET]

You mean him, the quote is not part of my sig.

Yes I mean him.

Did I say you???

Wow!

 

[juvenissun]

Why should they, if they are adapted to their environment?

Then why should they evolve at the very beginning?

 

[juvenissun]

As Speedwell says, they're well adapted to their environments, and they can reproduce and evolve fast enough to cope with most environmental changes (look how they've evolved antibiotic resistance in less than 100 years). There are probably more bacteria than any other form of life.

Then the evolution process should stop long time ago.

 

[juvenissun]

If you focus on the few lineages that result in complex organisms you'll see a trend towards complexity; if you focus on the majority, you won't.

You've selected a small, exceptional sample, and appear to have convinced yourself the trend it shows is representative. It isn't.

No. The whole illustration of life tree makes me see the trend.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Then the evolution process should stop long time ago.

Not if the environment changes.

 

[JonFromMinnesota]

Then the evolution process should stop long time ago.

Why would evolution stop? Its an ongoing process happening every single day. Every new born child has between 50-100 genetic mutations

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

No. The whole illustration of life tree makes me see the trend.

And that trend is? (I have a feeling that you've said what the trend is, but I'm not sure what post it's in)