Evolution is a RELIGION and not Science

[AV1611VET]

You said you used Boolean standards and you also say science can take a hike? please make up your mind.

I've never explained this, newbie?

 

[Skaloop]

I have always wanted to ask this. maybe someone can give me an answer.
lets say there was a parallel universe (which some scientists say might be possible) were beavers, platypus and ducks live side by side and humans don't exist.
one day some terrible disease wipes out all the beavers. a few thousand years later the platypus goes extinct, finally the duck another hundred thousand years later.
then a visitor from space comes and digs up these these fossils. he finds the beavers right a the bottom, platypus in the middle layers and ducks higher up.
from this he theorizes that beavers slowly evolved into the platypus then finally became the duck.
can someone tell me how I would be able to prove this persons theory wrong? how would I falsify his theory?

Based on the way you describe this hypothetical, the fact that the lowest layer contains beavers, platypuses, and ducks while the second layer contains platypuses and ducks, and the third layer contains ducks, that shows that the evolutionary path you describe is not accurate.

For it to be up for consideration, there would have to be beavers in lower layers without any platypuses or ducks. Then, there'd have to be a layer with beavers and platypuses but no ducks.

 

[Split Rock]

couldn't they just say that the platypus bill evolved over time and hardened as an adaptation?

No. They are unrelated structures with completely different developmental pathways. In other words, they are not homologous.

the same with the tail. couldn't someone just say that it evolved into a shorter thicker and hairier tail to adapt to a changing environment?
in the horse evolution chart, the descendants of the horse seem to lose and gain ribs randomly without any explanation given.

First of all, individual animals can have one more or less sets of ribs. Therefore, if an individual fossil has one or more ribs it means nothing. Secondly, we now know that horse evolution was more like a bush than a straight line to the modern horse Equus. Some lines evolved in different directions, such as maintaining the original browsing adaptions, and smaller size. Some may have had a reduction or increase in average rib number. They are all extinct now, except for Equus.

you say the similarities are entirely cosmetic. could not the same be said about the archeopteryx fossil?
you say its has features similar to reptiles and to birds therefore it is a transitional fossil when ornithologists say its simply a perching bird.

Archeopteryx is actually a feathered theropod dinosaur with wings. The only reason is is called a bird is because it has wings, not because of its skeletonal features, which are much more theropod than avian.

evolutionists still haven't explained how scales can become feathers and why they appear suddenly on the fossil record.

They didn't appear suddenly really. Many other dinosaurs had feathers of one type or another. Some were similar to modern flightless birds, others were more like down or even just hair like filaments. We know that the same cells that develop into scales can develop into feathers. In fact, there are plenty of birds today that demonstrate this. For example, there are breeds of chickens that have feathers on their legs instead of scales. In fact, only theropod dinosaurs and birds have both scales and feathers. This is a feature they have in common that supports their common ancestry.

and by all means do go into more detail about how fossils are classified.

They are usually classified based on features unique to various taxa.

 

[Inept]

It does mean however that a theory is by definition based on the facts. Which is what was being contested.

Correctomundo.

 

[sandwiches]

Others use Boolean standards, despite ridicule from you guys.

So either way, it doesn't matter, does it?

It's not what we say or do that bothers you guys -- it's what we are that bothers you guys, isn't it?

Nah. I don't care about what you believe unless your beliefs turn to actions that affect me, directly or indirectly.

 

[AV1611VET]

Nah. I don't care about what you believe unless your beliefs turn to actions that affect me, directly or indirectly.

Just keep passing that money around that says IN GOD WE TRUST on it --

 

[cupid dave]

Nah. I don't care about what you believe unless your beliefs turn to actions that affect me, directly or indirectly.

Isn't the bottom line that bible believers act against social sexual promiscuity because one of the bible Truths tells them that such societies become dominated by the women.
Their bibkle argues that sex becomes a sconmd currency which is used in the social commerce to trade sex favors for material and personal benefits with the men.

Women, in general, become rich simply because they collectively are "sitting on the gold mines."

But the single mothers start appearing in greater and greater numbers.
Their fatherless kids become anti-social criminal elements that destroy the nation.

This sexual prudence is what Bill Maher is really against, because he could other wise care not at all.

Hence, as a citizen, one is either for Bill Maaher and wide open sexual promiscuity, abortions, Gayness out, Homo marriage, pre-martial sex, No Fault Divorce, pornograph, lewd TV nakeness, or,... one is for the bible and sexual restraints.

 

[SonOfTheWest]

Isn't the bottom line that bible believers act against social sexual promiscuity because one of the bible Truths tells them that such societies become dominated by the women.
Their bibkle argues that sex becomes a sconmd currency which is used in the social commerce to trade sex favors for material and personal benefits with the men.

Women, in general, become rich simply because they collectively are "sitting on the gold mines."

But the single mothers start appearing in greater and greater numbers.
Their fatherless kids become anti-social criminal elements that destroy the nation.

This sexual prudence is what Bill Maher is really against, because he could other wise care not at all.

Hence, as a citizen, one is either for Bill Maaher and wide open sexual promiscuity, abortions, Gayness out, Homo marriage, pre-martial sex, No Fault Divorce, pornograph, lewd TV nakeness, or,... one is for the bible and sexual restraints.

Excluded middle, straw man. Gee where to begin.

 

[CabVet]

Isn't the bottom line that bible believers act against social sexual promiscuity because one of the bible Truths tells them that such societies become dominated by the women.
Their bibkle argues that sex becomes a sconmd currency which is used in the social commerce to trade sex favors for material and personal benefits with the men.

Women, in general, become rich simply because they collectively are "sitting on the gold mines."

But the single mothers start appearing in greater and greater numbers.
Their fatherless kids become anti-social criminal elements that destroy the nation.

This sexual prudence is what Bill Maher is really against, because he could other wise care not at all.

Hence, as a citizen, one is either for Bill Maaher and wide open sexual promiscuity, abortions, Gayness out, Homo marriage, pre-martial sex, No Fault Divorce, pornograph, lewd TV nakeness, or,... one is for the bible and sexual restraints.

This might be the most insulting and sexist post I've seen in this board. What are you reading? Or should I say drinking? The Bible that I read certainly doesn't say that all women become prostitutes if they don't follow your God.

 

[cupid dave]

This might be the most insulting and sexist post I've seen in this board. What are you reading? Or should I say drinking? The Bible that I read certainly doesn't say that all women become prostitutes if they don't follow your God.

Prostitutes...

No.

It says they become courtesan, geisha girls made up and dressed the part of the harlots who seek to accompany men as they trade their sexual favors in a promiscuous society.
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[CabVet]

Prostitutes...

No.

It says they become courtesan, geisha girls made up and dressed the part of the harlots who seek to accompany men as they trade their sexual favors in a promiscuous socciety.

I refuse to repeat your sick interpretations of the Bible. As for the above, the trade of sexual favors is the very definition of prostitution. I would change the subject if I were you, this is crossing the line.

 

[Matariki]

Evolution is a theory and is not based on scientific facts but only the faith and hope of its proponents. It must be accepted by faith and believed in by faith and not questioned. Therefore it has to be forced upon students at universities as their religious alignment.

Oh dear...

 

[Belk]

you seem to be under the impression that time and majority consensus implies credibility. you realize people have believed in things that have turned out to be wrong for much longer than 200 years.

When the majority have on average 7 years of full time schooling in the subject matter and have been actively using the theory to advance our knowledge? Yes, I would say that lends some credibility to their words. Or do you think that the majority of specialists when talking about their field of study are likely to be a bunch of hacks? Think those particle physicists might have a clue what they are talking about?

there's a very good joke that has a lot of truth in it:

if a frog turns into a man its called a fairytale.
if a frog turns into a man over millions of years its called evolution.

if you tell someone they evolved from primordial soup 100 years ago they would laugh at you.
even if you said 1000 years ago they would still find it hard to believe you.
but if you tell them they evolved over millions of years they probably would believe that.

it seems time is evolutions ultimate hero

Well, that and the huge amounts of evidence that has been gathered. Funny how that has a tendency to convince people when they look at it and see the paucity on the other side of the aisle.

and no I don't think its a conspiracy. just a small group of people with an agenda and a very loud voice screaming over anyone who doesn't agree with them.

You have some odd ideas about numbers. Less then 1% is apparently a large number while the 99% is a small number. Tell me. why exactly is it that 99.9% of biologists world wide support the theory? What exactly do all these scientists who would win world wide accolade and grant money gain from keeping this great truth suppressed?

 

[Belk]

Actually, the fossil record is evidence against evolution as there is an absence of transitional fossils. The fossil record is also evidence for a worldwide flood.

How is genetics evidence for evolution? Genetics is evidence for information and design. Only intelligence produces information and design.

OK. Please list for us the criteria you would use to determine if a fossil is transitional or not.

 

[cupid dave]

This might be the most insulting and sexist post I've seen in this board. What are you reading? Or should I say drinking? The Bible that I read certainly doesn't say that all women become prostitutes if they don't follow your God.

Is 3:15What mean ye (women?) that ye beat my people to pieces, and grind the faces of the poor? saith the Lord GOD of hosts.


16Moreover the LORD saith, "Because the daughters of Zion are haughty, and walk with stretched forth necks and wanton eyes, walking and mincing as they go, and making a tinkling with their feet":

17Therefore the LORD will smite with a scab the crown of the head of the daughters of Zion, and the LORD will discover their secret parts (the feminist mystic?).

18In that day the Lord will take away the bravery of their tinkling ornaments about their feet, and their cauls, and their round tires like the moon,

19The chains, and the bracelets, and the mufflers,

20The bonnets, and the ornaments of the legs, and the headbands, and the tablets, and the earrings,

21The rings, and nose jewels,

22The changeable suits of apparel, and the mantles, and the wimples, and the crisping pins,

23The glasses, and the fine linen, and the hoods, and the vails.

24And it shall come to pass, that instead of sweet smell there shall be stink; and instead of a girdle a rent; and instead of well set hair baldness; and instead of a stomacher a girding of sackcloth; and burning instead of beauty.

25Thy men shall fall by the sword, and thy mighty in the war. 26And her gates shall lament and mourn; and she being desolate shall sit upon the ground.

 

[sandwiches]

Just keep passing that money around that says IN GOD WE TRUST on it --

I do. It's a nonissue for me. Does it bother that I don't care about "in God we trust," AV?

 

[sandwiches]

Isn't the bottom line that bible believers act against social sexual promiscuity because one of the bible Truths tells them that such societies become dominated by the women.
Their bibkle argues that sex becomes a sconmd currency which is used in the social commerce to trade sex favors for material and personal benefits with the men.

Women, in general, become rich simply because they collectively are "sitting on the gold mines."

But the single mothers start appearing in greater and greater numbers.
Their fatherless kids become anti-social criminal elements that destroy the nation.

This sexual prudence is what Bill Maher is really against, because he could other wise care not at all.

Hence, as a citizen, one is either for Bill Maaher and wide open sexual promiscuity, abortions, Gayness out, Homo marriage, pre-martial sex, No Fault Divorce, pornograph, lewd TV nakeness, or,... one is for the bible and sexual restraints.

I don't even know what the heck this means.

 

[Phred]

Isn't the bottom line that bible believers act against social sexual promiscuity because one of the bible Truths tells them that such societies become dominated by the women.
Their bibkle argues that sex becomes a sconmd currency which is used in the social commerce to trade sex favors for material and personal benefits with the men.

Women, in general, become rich simply because they collectively are "sitting on the gold mines."

But the single mothers start appearing in greater and greater numbers.
Their fatherless kids become anti-social criminal elements that destroy the nation.

This sexual prudence is what Bill Maher is really against, because he could other wise care not at all.

Hence, as a citizen, one is either for Bill Maaher and wide open sexual promiscuity, abortions, Gayness out, Homo marriage, pre-martial sex, No Fault Divorce, pornograph, lewd TV nakeness, or,... one is for the bible and sexual restraints.

There were practical matters that led to the prohibitions against a woman having sex with anyone but her husband. That way you knew you were passing down your land and flocks to your actual progeny. The priests of the day, doing what priests did best, used the image of an angry god to enforce the ideas they needed enforced. You didn't sleep with a woman having her period because if you slept with a virgin you needed to see that blood from the busting of the hymen. You couldn't see that if the woman was having her period at the same time. So make it unclean. Just make it unclean all the time. That way a woman can't hide any diseases with her period either.

Speaking of diseases... they didn't have any actual medicine back then either. But they knew that if you slept with a diseased woman you got it too. So it was better not to sleep around rather than catch something that would eventually kill you. They made it prohibited by God. Smart really. Same way they made eating pork prohibited because some people got really, really sick by eating improperly prepared pigs. They didn't know that then of course, so they just banned pork.

If there was really a god it could have just told them the truth. Funny how that didn't happen.

As to Bill Maher, he's just for informed adults making their own decisions instead of being manipulated by religions based upon documents thousands of years old. I'd much rather my kids saw naked humans than people being shot, tortured, beaten and harmed every day on TV. But the culture spawned by your Bible has led us to banning human bodies and instead just killing them. It's led us to see those that don't think like us to be considered as less than us. It's why you folks get so worked up about abortion. Those "babies" are innocent. A criminal being put to death is GUILTY of something. Even if it's not the crime he's being executed for. Once he's born he's GUILTY. Then you don't care about him anymore.

Sick... it really is.

 

[Freodin]

Just keep passing that money around that says IN GOD WE TRUST on it --

What are you talking about? There is no "IN GOD WE TRUST" on the money I pass around.

 

[CabVet]

What are you talking about? There is no "IN GOD WE TRUST" on the money I pass around.

Didn't you know that the US Dollar is the currency in heaven? Just like English is the official language.