Evolution is a lie

[JoeyArnold]

It's like saying that we know guns fire, leave a casing and can kill the target - but not seeing the bullet hit the target at a crime scene containing a dead body with a conspicuous gunshot wound, a gun and a bullet casing nearby means you can't accuse someone of murder.

If you have never seen a gun before you wouldn't know where the bullet came from. We would have to guess what the bullet was or did. We wouldn't know if a gun made a noise or not. We have ways of knowing where the bullet comes from. That only works because we can study guns & observe guns because they are tangible & right in front of us.

When Dexter or somebody studies a crime scene they are able to reference to scenes they have actually seen. They might have a room with dummies where they can shoot the dummy in order to verify what actually happened. We have to be able to test things in that kind of way in order to really figure things out. Anything less than that is leaning towards speculation.

 

[dad]

That is where you are mistaken. Evolution provides a good explanation, with evidence, for what we see.

Evolution provides zero evidence any evolving started with anything other than created kinds. The insane explanation it attempts to offer that leads to Granny Bacteria has no merit at all.

 

[dad]

It would be, to that portion of the post. Thankfully I didn't leave it at that.



Given that evolving is simply genetic change and heredity at its core, not really, no.

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Change that started somewhere, and science has no proof that this somewhere was not Eden. Evolving is a created trait. You cannot prove it to be anything else, as evolution supposes and claims.

You did say "the principles of evolution having already being verified" ...that doesn't include where the evolving started. So evolution is just a bit player in the back pocket of creationists.

 

[JoeyArnold]

Evolution provides zero evidence any evolving started with anything other than created kinds. The insane explanation it attempts to offer that leads to Granny Bacteria has no merit at all.

Dad, I agree. Plus, when submarines dive into the ocean eventually the water pressure crushes it, but there are fish living down there. Plus, birds fly. How does one adapt into flying & into swimming in deep water? Will humans also adapt into living in space with space gills?

 

[dad]

Dad, I agree. Plus, when submarines dive into the ocean eventually the water pressure crushes it, but there are fish living down there. Plus, birds fly. How does one adapt into flying & into swimming in deep water? Will humans also adapt into living in space with space gills?

They have taken the ability to adapt way way way way too far.

 

[pgp_protector]

Oh, but he is very aware, I already showed him (and others) how broken this logic really is. Here is another statistical exercise following the same failed logic:

The chances of you existing

But regardless of how many times we refute this, I am sure it will be mentioned again (by the same people) in a few days.

http://abstrusegoose.com/strips/o_well_ok_so_long_as_there-s_no_pressure.png

 

[rikerjoe]

They have taken the ability to adapt way way way way too far.

That's why Evolution is not limited to only adaptation like you guys say. Your limitiation that it is all adaptation is not valid.

Speciation or "macro evolution" has happened and will continue to happen, either you like it or not.

 

[dad]

That's why Evolution is not limited to only adaptation like you guys say. Your limitiation that it is all adaptation is not valid.

Not me. I accept more evolution than you can dream of.

Speciation or "macro evolution" has happened and will continue to happen, either you like it or not.

No problem. So??

 

[rikerjoe]

Evolution provides zero evidence any evolving started with anything other than created kinds.

If you could define what a "created kind" is, you might have a point. Right now all you do is hand-waving.

The insane explanation it attempts to offer that leads to Granny Bacteria has no merit at all.

And yet you can't show where it fails...?

 

[JoeyArnold]

Why are fish living where submarines die?

 

[dad]

If you could define what a "created kind" is, you might have a point. Right now all you do is hand-waving.

Doesn't matter. In other words a bunch of animals that existed. It isn't hard to envision all the rest coming from them.

And yet you can't show where it fails...?

No need. Why would a created trait fail? If we needed to evolve and adapt...presto. Not only that but the former state saw evolving in a way that was fast fast fast. Perhaps even to the living creature rather than the offspring!? So you are out evoed here.

 

[JoeyArnold]

Nemo the Fish needs to adapt to the land & grow some legs. Nemo tries all of his life. When he has a kid, his kid is just like him, father like son. His son wants to adapt too but isn't any closer to growing legs like the Little Mermaid did. He has a kid who wants to adapt too but fails at breathing air. Billions of years later, after making no progress with each passing generation of the Nemo family, their descendants figure it out & they start crawling out of the water.

 

[dad]

Nemo the Fish needs to adapt to the land & grow some legs. Nemo tries all of his life. When he has a kid, his kid is just like him, father like son. His son wants to adapt too but isn't any closer to growing legs like the Little Mermaid did. He has a kid who wants to adapt too but fails at breathing air. Billions of years later, after making no progress with each passing generation of the Nemo family, their descendants figure it out & they start crawling out of the water.

Maybe a few days work before the flood....

 

[Mr Strawberry]

Nemo the Fish needs to adapt to the land & grow some legs. Nemo tries all of his life. When he has a kid, his kid is just like him, father like son. His son wants to adapt too but isn't any closer to growing legs like the Little Mermaid did. He has a kid who wants to adapt too but fails at breathing air. Billions of years later, after making no progress with each passing generation of the Nemo family, their descendants figure it out & they start crawling out of the water.

You have a lot of reading ahead of you.

 

[JoeyArnold]

You have a lot of reading ahead of you.

Nemo the Fish doesn't have legs. He gives birth to a child who doesn't have legs. The DNA dictates the traits of the off-springs. Is the DNA going to adapt & add a chromosome for legs?

 

[Mr Strawberry]

Nemo the Fish doesn't have legs. He gives birth to a child who doesn't have legs. The DNA dictates the traits of the off-springs. Is the DNA going to adapt & add a chromosome for legs?

it's usually a good idea to understand an idea before debating it. I recommend you learn how evolution works.

 

[JoeyArnold]

it's usually a good idea to understand an idea before debating it. I recommend you learn how evolution works.

You should explain evolution to me. Nemo the Fish doesn't have legs. He gives birth to a child who doesn't have legs. The DNA dictates the traits of the off-springs. Is the DNA going to adapt & add a chromosome for legs?

 

[Mr Strawberry]

You should explain evolution to me. Nemo the Fish doesn't have legs. He gives birth to a child who doesn't have legs. The DNA dictates the traits of the off-springs. Is the DNA going to adapt & add a chromosome for legs?

I "should" should I? Why exactly are you incapable of learning about it yourself before foisting your ignorance on us? Is there some problem you have that you are unable to read about it yourself?

 

[JoeyArnold]

I "should" should I? Why exactly are you incapable of learning about it yourself before foisting your ignorance on us? Is there some problem you have that you are unable to read about it yourself?

Humans should grow gills.

 

[Incariol]

I think JoeyArnold is kidding, guys... Let's all chill