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How do you know they weren’t here with “modern” humans all along
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There are hundreds of hominid and archaic homo sapiens fossils that have been discovered. Most are fragmentary, but more get discovered all the time.
How do you know they weren’t here with “modern” humans all along
As if every rib is needed or left side doesn'tSome very nearly complete skeletons have though.
Little Foot, an Australopithecus skeleton, is a little more than 90% complete.
Kebara, a Homo Neanderthalis skeleton, is described as "nearly complete"
Neo, a Homo naledi skeleton, is largely complete except for a missing a section of skull, and the ankles and feet. The skeleton was discovered in a cave with the remains of 14 other Homo naledi.
Turkana Boy, a Homo Erectus skeleton, is about 70% complete.
There are hundreds of hominid and archaic homo sapiens fossils that have been discovered. Most are fragmentary, but more get discovered all the time.
A temporary misidentification.
How do you know they weren’t here with “modern” humans all along
The fossil of 'Nebraska Man' (Hesperopithecus) was first reported in February 1922 (eight years before the discovery of Pluto), and correctly identified as the tooth of a peccary in December 1927, less than six years later. I think that this counts as a temporary misidentification.As opposed to a long-term misidentification?
Like Pluto?
The fossil of 'Nebraska Man' (Hesperopithecus) was first reported in February 1922 (eight years before the discovery of Pluto), and correctly identified as the tooth of a peccary in December 1927, less than six years later. I think that this counts as a temporary misidentification.
Pluto was discovered in the constellation Gemini in 1930, and was reclassified as a dwarf planet 76 years later, when it had moved into Ophiuchus or Serpens.
However, even from the beginning, Pluto was recognised as anomalous.
In 1930 itself, the American astronomer Frederick Leonard proposed that Pluto was merely the brightest member of a trans-Neptunian asteroid belt.
Less than ten years later the British astronomer Raymond Lyttleton suggest that Pluto was an escaped satellite of Neptune, and in 1949 and 1950 the Dutch-American astronomer G.P. Kuiper found by direct measurement of the disc of Pluto that it could not be larger than Venus.
In any case, by the end of this century, Pluto will have been classified as a dwarf planet for more than 90 years, longer than it was classified as a true planet, so the earlier classification was not really a long-term misidentification.
Rigging votes, moving decimal points back and forth, playing connect-the-dots, and so much more?
Does it affect you or what you do in your day to day life in any way, shape or form?
Not yet.
I really fail to see how the declassification of Pluto from planet to dwarf-planet can really affect you.
It doesn't.
But if a scientific organization rigging a vote doesn't bother you, then I have to assume all your harping on science doesn't mean that much to you either.
But, hey.
The ends justifies the means, doesn't it?
And for the record, none of the following even phases you, does it?
There has been some resistance within the astronomical community toward the reclassification. Alan Stern, principal investigator with NASA's New Horizons mission to Pluto, derided the IAU resolution. He also stated that because less than five percent of astronomers voted for it, the decision was not representative of the entire astronomical community. Marc W. Buie, then at the Lowell Observatory, petitioned against the definition. Others have supported the IAU, for example Mike Brown, the astronomer who discovered Eris.
Public reception to the IAU decision was mixed. A resolution introduced in the California State Assembly facetiously called the IAU decision a "scientific heresy". The New Mexico House of Representatives passed a resolution in honor of Clyde Tombaugh, the discoverer of Pluto and a longtime resident of that state, that declared that Pluto will always be considered a planet while in New Mexican skies and that March 13, 2007, was Pluto Planet Day.
The Illinois Senate passed a similar resolution in 2009 on the basis that Tombaugh was born in Illinois. The resolution asserted that Pluto was "unfairly downgraded to a 'dwarf' planet" by the IAU." Some members of the public have also rejected the change, citing the disagreement within the scientific community on the issue, or for sentimental reasons, maintaining that they have always known Pluto as a planet and will continue to do so regardless of the IAU decision.
In 2006, in its 17th annual words-of-the-year vote, the American Dialect Society voted plutoed as the word of the year. To "pluto" is to "demote or devalue someone or something".
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Many people up in arms about it, right down to the government level and ... hey ... who cares?
Science rules, doesn't it?
I'd be much more worried about governments rigging anything than scientific conferences doing it. So people want Pluto to be a planet instead of a dwarf-planet. Big whoop. It's... man, I can't even say the tame thing I want to say since I'll still break forum rules, but put simply: it's dumb.
Pluto is an object in space 5.06 BILLION kilometres away from Earth. I could not give two squits if it was a planet, a dwarf-planet, a trapezoid (thought that would be cool) or a rock that looks like your avatar.
You're making a mountain out of a molehill.
And why?
Just because you can.
Yup.
Science -- even rigged science -- breeds contempt.
The IAU did though.
So much so, that they tarnished themselves to do it.
But not California, Illinois, New Mexico,* Alan Stern, et alii?
* If you live in New Mexico, Pluto IS our ninth planet, per resolution of the state senate.
To expose Satan's infrastructure.
Science has degraded the morals of this country, possibly beyond its point of no return.
We are now a polluted nation.
But it's still just a rock in space, the existence of which has no actual bearing on Earth nor has its change had any actual ramifications for life on earth.
Ya -- as long as McDonald's keeps serving up french fries.
What's that saying that comes to mind?
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
Why did I start that? He's not going to shut up about it now.
AV, my estimation of you has sunk MUCH lower than it already has. You, in your strange, Don Quixote-esque, desire to protect Pluto are, in no way shape or form, comparable to those persecuted by THE FREAKING NAZIS!
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