Evolution False? Absolute proof inside.

[PsychoSarah]

Just, you do realize that what makes a tree is not its height, right? If that were what made the determination, a lot of ornamental trees would not be trees.

 

[TasManOfGod]

I am totally cool with not having the right to be a bad person. I really don't care if the desires some people have to murder or rape or steal aren't allowed to be expressed in their actions.

Because we are made in the image of God, we inherit His "free will" characteristic.

 

[justlookinla]

A plant eight foot tall at the most hardly counts as a tree.

In that case simple field corn would grow to become a tree. Thanks for supporting Sarah.

It's tall enough for birds to enjoy, as the bible points out.

 

[justlookinla]

Just, you do realize that what makes a tree is not its height, right? If that were what made the determination, a lot of ornamental trees would not be trees.

In the language of that time, they were trees.

 

[PsychoSarah]

It's tall enough for birds to enjoy, as the bible points out.

*rolls eyes* height alone is not what determines what does and doesn't constitute a tree.

 

[PsychoSarah]

In the language of that time, they were trees.

That doesn't prevent it from being inaccurate in matters of biology. To think height is what makes a tree determination is inaccurate in and of itself.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It's tall enough for birds to enjoy, as the bible points out.

That hardly matters. Birds can enjoy plants that are only a few inches tall. It called it a "tree". It does not grow to tree like dimensions at all. If the Bible were accurate it could have used the term for "bush". And since there was plenty of brush in the area I am sure the Hebrews had a word for it.

Still, as I said, these small errors do not bother me that much. It is the gross errors that get to me.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Because we are made in the image of God, we inherit His "free will" characteristic.

And god, being omnipotent, can maintain free will without suffering happening. No matter how you put it, what you argue, an omnipotent being can eliminate suffering without violating free will. God could make it work. So why didn't god is the real question.

 

[Subduction Zone]

In the language of that time, they were trees.

I sincerely doubt that. Now you have to show that they did not have a word for "bush" and since there is a tale of a "burning bush" in he Bible I don't think that you will be successful.

 

[DerelictJunction]

*rolls eyes* height alone is not what determines what does and doesn't constitute a tree.

What was perceived as a tree during Jesus' time is different than the biological classification is now. However, Jesus should have seen this objection coming.

Also, mustard seeds are not the smallest seeds as you pointed out.

 

[PsychoSarah]

What was perceived as a tree during Jesus' time is different than the biological classification is now. However, Jesus should have seen this objection coming.

Also, mustard seeds are not the smallest seeds as you pointed out.

By far not the smallest seeds.

 

[TasManOfGod]

And god, being omnipotent, can maintain free will without suffering happening. No matter how you put it, what you argue, an omnipotent being can eliminate suffering without violating free will. God could make it work. So why didn't god is the real question.

I suppose the difference would be like living in a capitalist or communist country. Which one would you prefer?

 

[PsychoSarah]

I suppose the difference would be like living in a capitalist or communist country. Which one would you prefer?

God could make it paradise without sacrificing anything about humanity. After all, heaven is supposed to still have free will yet no suffering, right? Also, you can't base how it would feel under the guidance of an omnipotent being in how it would play out with limited humans in control.

 

[justlookinla]

I sincerely doubt that. Now you have to show that they did not have a word for "bush" and since there is a tale of a "burning bush" in he Bible I don't think that you will be successful.

No, all I have to do is point out that it was viewed as a tree at 8 ft tall.

There's a word for "bush" in the Greek. Batos.

 

[PsychoSarah]

No, all I have to do is point out that it was viewed as a tree at 8 ft tall.

There's a word for "bush" in the Greek. Batos.

It doesn't matter if they thought of it as a tree, it isn't a tree.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No, all I have to do is point out that it was viewed as a tree at 8 ft tall.

There's a word for "bush" in the Greek. Batos.

A plant that grows to eight foot tall at the most does not qualify as a tree. It qualifies as a bush. Once again you failed.

 

[TasManOfGod]

I might remind everybody that they may have the opportunity of telling God where He went wrong. The down side might be that He will remind you of where you went wrong as well.

 

[PsychoSarah]

I might remind everybody that they may have the opportunity of telling God where He went wrong. The down side might be that He will remind you of where you went wrong as well.

And what if it turns out god just doesn't care that people suffer, what then?

 

[bhsmte]

I might remind everybody that they may have the opportunity of telling God where He went wrong. The down side might be that He will remind you of where you went wrong as well.

Sounds fair.

But, I would have to believe in a God to tell him where he went wrong. The story that is man made is wrong IMO and is also void of the morality an all loving and caring God would want.

 

[DerelictJunction]

I might remind everybody that they may have the opportunity of telling God where He went wrong. The down side might be that He will remind you of where you went wrong as well.

We are describing problems with the Christian personification of a God, not THE GOD, if such a thing exists.

In a similar manner, you could describe problems with the character Harry Potter. We would understand that you actually don't believe he exists.