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Putting someone on your ignore list is tantamount to saying that they have defeated you in an argument.

I disagree. Spend a month in the politics forum and you will see that there are other reasons to ignore posters.

Hey wait, if we are disagreeing, does that mean that you aren't my sock? Maybe it means that I'm just really good at socks! (BTW, my join date is earlier, so that means you are my sock and not the other way around. Now DANCE MONKEY, DANCE!)
 
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I disagree. Spend a month in the politics forum and you will see that there are other reasons to ignore posters.

Hey wait, if we are disagreeing, does that mean that you aren't my sock? Maybe it means that I'm just really good at socks! (BTW, my join date is earlier, so that means you are my sock and not the other way around. Now DANCE MONKEY, DANCE!)

That is true. There are a few very objectionable posters at almost any forum. I don't argue politics too much. I used to be fairly conservative, because I was a fiscal conservative. But sadly I do not see either party as being particularly conservative in that sense these days. The wackos have taken over the Republicans and the Democrats are not much better.
 
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Can you name a higher level of truth than the Bible?

Truth is subjective, I am sure many of the biblical authors honestly believed what they wrote down fit reality. But I can guarantee you in matters of biology I can absolutely destroy the bible.

But not exactly impressive to have a better understanding of biology than people from over 1000 years ago.

And I am not claiming to be more knowledgeable than some deity, I don't view the bible as being influenced or written by a deity to begin with. I claim to be more knowledgeable about certain topics than ancient peoples, which isn't exactly arrogant of me as I have the luxury of having centuries of more information available to me than they did.
 
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Truth is subjective, I am sure many of the biblical authors honestly believed what they wrote down fit reality. But I can guarantee you in matters of biology I can absolutely destroy the bible.

But not exactly impressive to have a better understanding of biology than people from over 1000 years ago.

And I am not claiming to be more knowledgeable than some deity, I don't view the bible as being influenced or written by a deity to begin with. I claim to be more knowledgeable about certain topics than ancient peoples, which isn't exactly arrogant of me as I have the luxury of having centuries of more information available to me than they did.
One interesting observation I make and that is that biology texts keep changing all the time due to errors whereas the Bible by its very nature cannot and yet it has not been proven to be wrong. Wherein lies the truth?
 
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One interesting observation I make and that is that biology texts keep changing all the time due to errors whereas the Bible by its very nature cannot and yet it has not been proven to be wrong. Wherein lies the truth?

It has been shown to be wrong in many cases, not my fault if you haven't noticed. And scientific ideas change in response to new and better information, which is why it gradually gets closer and closer to fitting reality perfectly, while the bible remains stagnant in an ancient view which has long since been shown to have few points of accuracy.

The bible doesn't change because people assume it is right, not because it actually is. Also, believe it or not, the bible has been altered significantly over the years, it tends to happen in spurts, rather than continuously. But entire books have been removed from cannon.
 
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It has been shown to be wrong in many cases, not my fault if you haven't noticed. And scientific ideas change in response to new and better information, which is why it gradually gets closer and closer to fitting reality perfectly, while the bible remains stagnant in an ancient view which has long since been shown to have few points of accuracy.

The bible doesn't change because people assume it is right, not because it actually is. Also, believe it or not, the bible has been altered significantly over the years, it tends to happen in spurts, rather than continuously. But entire books have been removed from cannon.
Perhaps you would like to tell us about the untruths in the Bible as you see them.
 
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One interesting observation I make and that is that biology texts keep changing all the time due to errors whereas the Bible by its very nature cannot and yet it has not been proven to be wrong. Wherein lies the truth?

Again, this is where you are wrong.

When science finds an error they try to correct it. That is a good thing.

When we find errors in the Bible some Christians try to cover them up or make flaky excuses for them. This is bad thing.

The Bible would be a much better book if it had a method to correct the errors of the Bible.
 
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Perhaps you would like to tell us about the untruths in the Bible as you see them.

Every time I do that, all I see in response is mental Olympics to try to make out me to be "interpreting things wrong" or other such things.
 
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Ok well we will just say that there are some parts of the Bible that you are unsure of. OK ?

No, I feel pretty confident they are off. It's not really all that hard to see. For example, the bible claims rabbits chew cud. We can easily observe rabbits don't do this.
 
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Perhaps you would like to tell us about the untruths in the Bible as you see them.

Sure:

Failed prophecy of Tyre
Jesus birthdate
Crucifixion day of the week
MANY other problems with the Easter story
Matthew taking "prophecies" out of context
Multiple interpolations
Earth is a flat circle with a dome
genealogies that don't match up
Flood never happened (using YEC interpretation)
earth is much more than 6000 years old (YEC interpretation)


For a start...
 
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