Evolution Exposed

[Colter]

If Adam and Eve were real and literal, then you should be able to find evidence outside of the Bible.

Why? If they were 40 thousand years old and the garden site under water then we wouldn't expect to find anything.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Eh, that's kinda pushing it. If Adam and Eve were just any two random humans (the only version of the story that works with what we know from genetics) and not the progenitors of all of humanity, then there's no particular reason to believe we'd find sources of their existence. After all, why would they be important?

If I remember archeology has evidence or artifacts from about 30 groups of people living in that part of the world at that point of time. Archaeology and the bible is a huge subject that huge amounts of time and effort has gone into.

 

[Colter]

Eh, that's kinda pushing it. If Adam and Eve were just any two random humans (the only version of the story that works with what we know from genetics) and not the progenitors of all of humanity, then there's no particular reason to believe we'd find sources of their existence. After all, why would they be important?

In my theology Adam and Eve were installed on our old evolved earth as the worlds new visible spiritual rulers. Had they not defaulted the world would be a very different place.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Why? If they were 40 thousand years old and the garden site under water then we wouldn't expect to find anything.

There is a science Adam and Eve that was featured on the cover of time magazine. There are many Edens like we find in the Bible. There are sufficient books written about the domestication of plants and animals in the middle east. China had its own "Eden" in the yellow river area. This is where rice was domesticated along with Asian vegetables. East and West were eventually connected by trade along the silk road. A road that is of course still there today. It's interesting to look at the photos people are taking there today.

 

[Colter]

There is a science Adam and Eve that was featured on the cover of time magazine. There are many Edens like we find in the Bible. There are sufficient books written about the domestication of plants and animals in the middle east. China had its own "Eden" in the yellow river area. This is where rice was domesticated along with Asian vegetables. East and West were eventually connected by trade along the silk road. A road that is of course still there today. It's interesting to look at the photos people are taking there today.

Gobekli tepe was a very advanced culture, it was at least 12,000 years old when it was buried by what was likly a superstitious, inferior culture.

 

[joshua 1 9]

In my theology Adam and Eve were installed on our old evolved earth as the worlds new visible spiritual rulers. Had they not defaulted the world would be a very different place.

Adam and Eve represent man becoming a farmer food producer rather than a hunter gather. There is sufficient evidence that farming began in the middle east and spread to the world from there. They call this the fertile crescent.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Gobekli tepe was a very advanced culture, it is at least 12,000 years old when it was buried by what was likly a superstitious, inferior culture.

Gobekli could have been prostitution. In the Bible they were warned to stay away from places like that. This is an extremely significant scientific find many thousands of years before Adam and Eve. There is no evidence of any people living there at the time. These people are still campers hunter gathers.

 

[Colter]

Gobekli could have been prostitution. In the Bible they were warned to stay away from places like that. This is an extremely significant scientific find many thousands of years before Adam and Eve. There is no evidence of any people living there at the time. These people are still campers hunter gathers.

The Bible wasn't written by either historians or philosophers. Genesis was redacted and rewritten during the Babylonion captivity by the literate priestly elite, the audience was the more child like mind of Bronze Age sheep herders. It was pseudo biographical, by Hebrews for Hebrews.

 

[joshua 1 9]

the audience was the more child like mind of Bronze Age sheep herders. It was pseudo biographical, by Hebrews for Hebrews.

First we look at who the Bible was written for. Then we look at the message in the Bible for us and our generation today.

 

[joshua 1 9]

If Adam and Eve were real and literal, then you should be able to find evidence outside of the Bible.

I find plenty of evidence. I especially like to study the abundance of evidence science provides for us.

 

[Alithis]

Nope. Burden of proof lies with those making a positive claim.

says who ? who made that rule ? can you prove it ? it is a silly bias based rule . .. evolution remains utterly unproven being itself based upon a chosen belief system .
but God is and was and ever shall be far long after the memory of you is gone and all evidence that you existed on the earth forgotten .

 

[Shemjaza]

says who ? who made that rule ? can you prove it ? it is a silly bias based rule . .. evolution remains utterly unproven being itself based upon a chosen belief system .
but God is and was and ever shall be far long after the memory of you is gone and all evidence that you existed on the earth forgotten .

It's just a logical rule.

Neither scientist nor creationist is required to prove that the moon isn't full of goat monsters... we just say that there's no reason to accept that fact and move on.

If I assert evolution happened, I can present evidence in the form of fossil evidence, genetic evidence and the pattern of the twin nested hierarchies of ERVs in our genes and morphological structure of life.

Likewise if someone wants to assert that their God exists and is responsible for a more recent creation event, then they should be expected to present evidence. If "Well, you can't prove it didn't happen that way" is valid then it is equally valid to assume the universe was created last Thursday and all our history and memory was embedded.

 

[HitchSlap]

says who ? .. .

The entire western judicial system, for starters.

 

[Alithis]

neither scientist nor creationist is required to prove that the moon isn't full of goat monsters... we just say that there's no reason to accept that fact and move on.

well i find no reason to accept evolution and i move on

 

[Alithis]

The entire western judicial system, for starters.

i was being tongue in cheek but as said so often just because a large number say something ,it doesn't automatically make it correct. but we are Christians ,one who beleive in God (though some are dubious in that ) and there is (though some refuse to admit it ) such a thing as a true christian and a false christian ..false are known by failure to remain christian .
but we wont be converted and any one attempting to do so should leave the site as there are many others where they can theorize until the cows come home . but theories conjecture and guess of what may have could have possibly did and just as possibly didn't whatever .. offer me nothing but warm wind .

 

[Colter]

First we look at who the Bible was written for. Then we look at the message in the Bible for us and our generation today.

True, the OT was written by Hebrews for the common Israelite, the NT was written by Jewish converts to the Jesus movement.

 

[Shemjaza]

well i find no reason to accept evolution and i move on

Which is why I then listed the evidence.

 

[Alithis]

Which is why I then listed the evidence.

i don't believe your partial incomplete unprovable evidence and i move on

 

[Shemjaza]

i don't believe your partial incomplete unprovable evidence and i move on

Right.

 

[HitchSlap]

i don't believe your partial incomplete unprovable evidence and i move on

Well, one chapter is a little easier to understand than 150 years of research.
Goddidit.