Evolution Exposed

[Audacious]

What?!?!?

Do you think the Old English is like the New English?

Here is a example of the Old English:


If Old English was a dead language for more than 2000 years.....do you think it could be revived? Do you think we would know the pronunciation or even the meanings of the words?

Modern hebrew IS NOT old Hebrew.

This is an absurdly false comparison. Modern Hebrew is literally just a revised form of ancient Hebrew, and was very recently revised; it is mutually intelligible with ancient Hebrew -- that is, anyone who speaks one, speaks the other.

Old English is not mutually intelligible with modern English.

 

[morse86]

This is an absurdly false comparison. Modern Hebrew is literally just a revised form of ancient Hebrew, and was very recently revised; it is mutually intelligible with ancient Hebrew -- that is, anyone who speaks one, speaks the other.

Old English is not mutually intelligible with modern English.

So you think that a language that has been dead for 2000 years...not a single person spoke it....can be easily revived?

 

[lasthero]

So you think that a language that has been dead for 2000 years...not a single person spoke it....can be easily revived?

Who said it was easy?

 

[sfs]

So you think that a language that has been dead for 2000 years...not a single person spoke it....can be easily revived?

Not a single person spoke Hebrew as a mother tongue. Many spoke it and wrote it as a sacred and literary language. Very different situation from Old English.

(And yet, we do have a good idea of how Old English was pronounced, and have no trouble translating most Old English texts. So yes, it could be revived it there were sufficient interest. It wouldn't be identical to Old English as it was originally spoken, of course, but 21st century English isn't even identical to 20th century English.)

 

[fat wee robin]

We can always use qualified scientists to help add to our current understanding.

So what do you say to the fact that most scientists whose work has lasted ,believed
in a Creator ,from Newton onwards and backwards too ? Tell me how many 'atheists' work, still holds true,has been tested in time ?

The 'theory of evolution' as it is held by people who are atheists is limited. It is not complete .

 

[fat wee robin]

Such as, Thor, god of thunder, throwing down lightning bolts?

Your arguments are very simplistic and it is quite evident that you are not well read on

The accounts given in the Bible would explain this just as well and since God knows everything by definition, a Christian ought to be able to trust what He has told us as far as He has chosen to reveal things to us. We can't expect to understand much of His handiwork and He even tells us that: Isa 55:9 "As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts."

One of the problems for me as a christian is that there is masses of evidence of God and His laws outside of the bible, and that God at this stage in the progression and unfolding of His plan for us, does want us to 'see' .Many christians, are just like the lesser scientists who are atheists. Without the 'light' in their mind, of the Spirit of God, they are afraid to really LOOK and so limit themselves to limited understanding of the Creator . One camp is as bad as the other .

 

[sfs]

So what do you say to the fact that most scientists whose work has lasted ,believed
in a Creator ,from Newton onwards and backwards too ? Tell me how many 'atheists' work, still holds true,has been tested in time ?

The 'theory of evolution' as it is held by people who are atheists is limited. It is not complete .

Since almost all early scientists were Christians, as was everyone around them, that's not a very useful point to make, is it? In reality, since Christianity ceased to be so culturally dominant in the West, the scientific work of atheists and agnostics has held up just fine. In fact, the quality of scientific work has pretty much nothing to do with the religious beliefs of the scientist. It's also worth noting that almost all biologists who are Christians accept evolution. Do you think their work is going to hold up?

 

[Split Rock]

Science is able to test how healthy we are. God will rescue and protect those who love Him. He will satisfy them with long life. Science is fully aware that Christians live longer. Of course in order to be healthy we have to eat right, exercise and control our stress. Not everyone is willing to do that.

Please provide a reference for your assertion that Christians live longer.

 

[Split Rock]

So what do you say to the fact that most scientists whose work has lasted ,believed
in a Creator ,from Newton onwards and backwards too ? Tell me how many 'atheists' work, still holds true,has been tested in time ?

The 'theory of evolution' as it is held by people who are atheists is limited. It is not complete .

The Theory of Evolution (quotes not required) is not held by atheists alone. It is held by the vast majority of all scientists, regardless of their religious beliefs (atheist, agnostic, Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Budhist, Shinto, Hindu, etc). It is the same theory for all of them.

 

[Alithis]

For anyone who doubts that the so-called Theory of Evolution and the Big Bang models for the origin of the universe have massive problems, here are just a few of them exposed by the great Mike Riddle in his video "Is Evolution Both a Fact and a Theory?"

http://www.creationtraining.org/is-evolution-both-a-fact-and-a-theory/

well what can I say .. (without turning it into a creation vs evo .. thread which is in the wrong area )
evolution is a theory.. it is rather loosely based on "Some" small amount of fact and a large amount of conjecture and assumption . and facts do not automatically equal "truth" ..
-as i say so often .."Example : it is a fact that a man can tell me a lie . "

 

[briquest]

Romans 1:18 King James Version (KJV)
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and four footed beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Please provide a reference for your assertion that Christians live longer.

http://www.webmd.com/balance/features/spirituality-may-help-people-live-longer?page=3

Even mediation has been shown to be beneficial. http://longevity.about.com/od/highbloodpressure/a/Meditation-And-Longevity.htm

Even an act of congress shows the benefit of Ornish program for reduced health care cost. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/13/dean-ornish-yoga_n_4575817.html

 

[Alithis]

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[joshua 1 9]

So you think that a language that has been dead for 2000 years...not a single person spoke it....can be easily revived?

There are teachings showing
the ancient hebrew language is Holy and sacred. Mostly preserved by teachers of the
Kabbalah and Jewish Mysticism .

 

[eclipsenow]

Romans 1:18 King James Version (KJV)
18 God hath shewed it unto them.

The KJV had a great place in history, and we owe it a lot. But frankly, I'm a bit over it. It's based on far later and less accurate manuscripts than the thousands of earlier, more accurate manuscripts we have now, and frankly is out of date and full of Pharisaic Religiosity. All those 'thees' and 'thous' are just showy. It's time to move on and use something more realistic like the NIV and ESV, and ... to try and quote the bits of the passage that are most relevant to this discussion.

 

[Blue Wren]

Seriously, this video is complete garbage. Virtually nothing this guy says is true. He combines the ridiculous "historic vs. observational science" lie of Answers in Genesis with a big fat healthy heap of lies about what "historic science" has discovered. He knows nothing about the scientific method or the fields he's ineptly trying to critique.

Going to creationists for science information is like going to Taco Bell for haute cuisine.

I read your whole summary. Thank-you. I especially agree, with this part.

 

[Shemjaza]

So what do you say to the fact that most scientists whose work has lasted ,believed
in a Creator ,from Newton onwards and backwards too ? Tell me how many 'atheists' work, still holds true,has been tested in time ?

The 'theory of evolution' as it is held by people who are atheists is limited. It is not complete .

There are more Christians who accept evolution then there are atheists, period.

 

[Colter]

My fellow believers, all this controversy about creationism verses evolution can be overcome by the simple consideration that cosmic evolution is the technique of the creator. When we observe the material records incased in archeological discoveries, we are seeing the purposive progression of creation.

What we see in Genesis (vantage point Babylonian captivity), the writings of the elite Hebrew priest class, is a narrative directed at the common, scattered Israelite audience, a dejected and enslaved people having lost their national identity. This was a severe test of all that they believed from the hazy days of Abrams purported agreement with God, through 400+ years enslaved in Egypt and the subsequent epic of the development of the Kingdoms of Israel. What, when and where?

 

[florida2]

So what do you say to the fact that most scientists whose work has lasted ,believed
in a Creator ,from Newton onwards and backwards too ? Tell me how many 'atheists' work, still holds true,has been tested in time ?
.

Because it's irrelevant. Newton's work on gravity and motion has nothing to do with whether there is a creator or not.

 

[HitchSlap]

So what do you say to the fact that most scientists whose work has lasted ,believed
in a Creator ,from Newton onwards and backwards too ? Tell me how many 'atheists' work, still holds true,has been tested in time ?

The 'theory of evolution' as it is held by people who are atheists is limited. It is not complete .

ToE is as robust as they come.