Evolution/Creation on Trial

[justlookinla]

It would indeed be fallacious to claim that if it is beautiful, simple, or elegant, then it must be true. Fortunately, "evolutionists" (i.e., scientists) don't claim that. We know it to be true because the evidence supports it, not because it is beautiful, simple, or elegant.

You're continually trying to equate evolution with Darwinist evolution. They're two very different views.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

You're wanting someone to answer a question you asked? How about that!!

Yeah, how about that!

 

[Archaeopteryx]

You're continually trying to equate evolution with Darwinist evolution. They're two very different views.

No, no they're not.

 

[justlookinla]

Yeah, how about that!

Mind doing that with my question in the other thread?

 

[justlookinla]

No, no they're not.

Yes, they are. One is supported by the scientific method (evolution) while the other isn't supported by the scientific method (Darwinist evoluton).

 

[joshua 1 9]

You are kidding me, right?

Have you ever heard of Kat Kerr? She talks about going to heaven and seeing things like candy houses that the kids can eat or play around. Just like the story of the ginger bread house. I do not care if things like that are true or not. It's just fun to think about. Its called an allegory that reveals truth that can be reviled in no other way. I got a dentist that likes to build great big elaborate candy houses. He spends many hundreds of hours on one with all the intricate details. So does an adventure park like that actually exist in Heaven? No way to know sense we do not know for sure if there even is a Heaven. But if there is then something like that is nice to think about. I am not to much into hell fire and brimstone. Besides if I want to see that all I got to do is turn on the 6 o'clock news and see all I would want to see.

 

[Smidlee]

Evolution meaning which everyone agrees with is variation which is just used as a distraction.
ToE claims there is no taxonomic limit to variation.
Atheistic evolution is universal common descent plus naturalism , nature is all there is.

 

[justlookinla]

Evolution meaning which everyone agrees with is variation which is just used as a distraction.
ToE claims there is no taxonomic limit to variation.
Atheistic evolution is universal common descent plus naturalism , nature is all there is.

Yep, they will not admit that "evolution" isn't a monolithic term.

 

[joshua 1 9]

I see no reason to believe that there are demons at all.

I would strongly urge you to encourage anyone who has seizures to seek medical assistance.

I was actually talking to a medical doctor at the time. The people were busy strapping a helmet on the kids head so he would not hurt himself. My wife's nephew was having seizures and I determined that it was shaky brain syndrome from his auntie throwing him up in the air. We told her to stop and somewhere along they way the doctor took him off the medication. He actually is doing ok now. A lot more intelligent then I thought he was going to be.

Sometimes when we pray God does not moves in mysterious ways. He simply gives us the knowledge and understanding we need to solve the problem. If you think you can figure it all our for yourself with out His help them I hope that all works out for you.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Evolution meaning which everyone agrees with is variation which is just used as a distraction.

Everyone agrees with micro evolution. They do not agree on macro evolution.

 

[joshua 1 9]

It would indeed be fallacious to claim that if it is beautiful, simple, or elegant, then it must be true. Fortunately, "evolutionists" (i.e., scientists) don't claim that. We know it to be true because the evidence supports it, not because it is beautiful, simple, or elegant.

I have deep faith that the principle of the universe will be beautiful and simple.
Albert Einstein

 

[joshua 1 9]

You're wanting someone to answer a question you asked? How about that!!

Oh sure anyone can answer a question they have asked. The real challenge is to answer the question before they ask it

 

[justlookinla]

Oh sure anyone can answer a question they have asked. The real challenge is to answer the question before they ask it

I had asked the questioner a question in another thread and he immediately went into evasion mode and still hasn't answered it, yet he wishes for his questions to be answered.

Kinda a double standard.

 

[joshua 1 9]

I had asked the questioner a question in another thread and he immediately went into evasion mode and still hasn't answered it, yet he wishes for his questions to be answered.

Kinda a double standard.

Could be a weakness in the software. When I click on "alerts" the system does not keep track of what responses I have clicked on. So it is possible that people could miss one every now and then.

 

[justlookinla]

Could be a weakness in the software. When I click on "alerts" the system does not keep track of what responses I have clicked on. So it is possible that people could miss one every now and then.

In his case, he specifically said he wasn't going to answer my question. He didn't miss it.

And yes, I too miss questions but never avoid them because I don't wish to answer them.

 

[bhsmte]

Everyone agrees with micro evolution. They do not agree on macro evolution.

The dominating factor in whether one agrees that macro evolution takes place, has nothing to do with understanding the science and or evidence and everything to do with their personal faith belief.

 

[Smidlee]

The dominating factor in whether one agrees that macro evolution takes place, has nothing to do with understanding the science and or evidence and everything to do with their personal faith belief.

Exactly. Someone who believe in naturalism will naturally believe in macro-evolution no matter how much evidence stand against it.

 

[joshua 1 9]

The dominating factor in whether one agrees that macro evolution takes place, has nothing to do with understanding the science and or evidence and everything to do with their personal faith belief.

Exactly evolutionists can present no evidence. So their belief in Macro Evolution is based on their personal faith and belief. Esp when the whole theory hinges on a mutations theory. It takes a LOT of faith to believe that something good comes out of mistakes and errors. In fact the whole bio diverse biosphere is said to be a product of mutations.

 

[bhsmte]

Exactly evolutionists can present no evidence. So their belief in Macro Evolution is based on their personal faith and belief. Esp when the whole theory hinges on a mutations theory. It takes a LOT of faith to believe that something good comes out of mistakes and errors. In fact the whole bio diverse biosphere is said to be a product of mutations.

No evidence?

Either you haven't looked very closely, or you simply have to pretend none exists. Did you already forget the quote already posted from geneticist and christian Francis Collins on how powerful the evidence is to support Darwin's theory? All these highly educated scientists, are either incompetent according to you, or the hundreds of thousands of them, are all lying.

I wouldn't want to be you and have to deny all this everyday of my life, the cognitive dissonance must be enormous.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

 

[Smidlee]

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
vs
http://trueorigin.org/theobald1a.php

Boring.