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Evolution conflict and division

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Evolution conflict and division.
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The Great Divide: Evolution vs. Creation
Let’s imagine the world split evenly in two. Half of humanity believes that the universe, Earth, the sun, and all life evolved naturally—through processes like the Big Bang and biological evolution. This group sees no need for a supreme, omnipresent creator. The other half believes in a spiritual, all-knowing God who created everything: space, time, matter, and life itself. These two worldviews stand in stark contrast, each with passionate followers and deep convictions.
The Question to Evolutionists
In a global debate arena, we pose a question to the evolution-believing half: Why would evolutionists ever invent the concept of God? If early humans evolved to reason and reflect, what sparked the idea of a supreme being—an invisible, omnipresent spirit called God? Was it fear, wonder, politics, or something else entirely?
⚔️ A Political Split in the Evolution Camp
Could the idea of God have emerged from a political or philosophical divide among early evolutionists themselves? Imagine two thinkers—brothers, perhaps—who shared a belief in evolution but disagreed on how society should be governed. Over time, their disagreements grew. Each brother attracted followers. Tensions escalated. Neither was evil, but both were convinced they were right.
The Birth of a New Belief
To end the conflict and create a clear separation, one brother conceived a radical idea: invent a spiritual creator. This wasn’t a scientific theory—it was a symbolic revolution. By introducing God, he rejected the shared evolutionary narrative and forged a new path. His followers embraced this divine origin story, not as fiction, but as truth. Books were written. Rituals formed. A new worldview took root.
The Power of Belief
This wasn’t just a clever tactic—it was transformative. The belief in God offered comfort, purpose, and unity. It created a distinct identity, separate from the scientific narrative. Over generations, this belief became deeply embedded in culture, law, and morality. Half the population now sees God not as an invention, but as the ultimate reality.
Who Created Whom?
So we return to the central question: Did evolution create God, or did God create evolution? Was the divine a product of human imagination, born from conflict and division? Or is God the eternal source of all things, including the very minds that question Him?
 

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The eternal creator of all things is what I call God. If evolution is fact, then God must be its creator. Although I can't say whether other creatures evolved to contemplate the nature of God, human beings can and do. If there there is a meaningful difference between whether we evolved to do so or we were created to do so, I don't see it. There is a process involved whenever something is created. Understanding how nature works doesn't negate the need for a creator.

People invent false gods to this day. It's called idolatry. We didn't invent the creator of all things. If we did, we wouldn't be here to do so. A logical impossibility. Rather, we are sufficiently capable of using a word to describe the concept.
 
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Let’s imagine the world split evenly in two. Half of humanity believes that the universe, Earth, the sun, and all life evolved naturally—through processes like the Big Bang and biological evolution. This group sees no need for a supreme, omnipresent creator.
I'd rather deal with this world, in which whether one believes in a supreme, omnipresent creator has nothing to do with whether one accepts evolution or not.
 
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I'd rather deal with this world, in which whether one believes in a supreme, omnipresent creator has nothing to do with whether one accepts evolution or not.
Yes, this is all the same world, and you are where you belong. You accept your belief, and I agree with you. And the same world keeps spinning regardless of anyone's belief. Life will continue to evolve with and without us in it.
 
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Let’s imagine the world split evenly in two. Half of humanity believes that the universe, Earth, the sun, and all life evolved naturally—through processes like the Big Bang and biological evolution. This group sees no need for a supreme, omnipresent creator. The other half believes in a spiritual, all-knowing God who created everything: space, time, matter, and life itself. These two worldviews stand in stark contrast, each with passionate followers and deep convictions.
Bad assumption, weird conclusion. You've excluded the plurality which accepts that God created all things, and used nature to do it.
 
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