Evolution=Atheism

[Aduro Amnis]

Wha2damax.

 

[Mistermystery]

I take it that you never saw Pulp ficition?

 

[Obertray]

I take it that you never saw Pulp ficition?

Ha, now who's spouting fallacies?

 

[AV1611VET]

I 'm sorry I could not help but notice that all those who claim that evolution does not equal atheism end up showing to be atheists at the end !!!!!!.

Does that surprise you?

Paul warned about that very thing.

Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Calling yourselves Homo sapiens (wise men) can lead to atheism.

Not all the time, but they that do that are putting themselves at risk.

 

[RickG]

Does that surprise you?

Paul warned about that very thing.

Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Calling yourselves Homo sapiens (wise men) can lead to atheism.

Not all the time, but they that do that are putting themselves at risk.

But before Paul there was: Exodus 20:16

Thus, when realizing that YEC is built upon nothing more than a severe violation of Exodus 20:16, what does that say about the validity of the entire bible? Really, if one has to make stuff up and deliberately misrepresent science, it is not much of an incentive to believe in God.

 

[Split Rock]

Does that surprise you?

Paul warned about that very thing.

Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Calling yourselves Homo sapiens (wise men) can lead to atheism.

Not all the time, but they that do that are putting themselves at risk.

You know very well that there are many theistic evolutionists... who engage with them right here in this forum. Also, a name doesn't lead to atheism. Remember Shakespeare? "What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet."

 

[Dizredux]

Does that surprise you?

Paul warned about that very thing.

Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Calling yourselves Homo sapiens (wise men) can lead to atheism.

Not all the time, but they that do that are putting themselves at risk.

2004????

 

[AV1611VET]

But before Paul there was: Exodus 20:16

Thus, when realizing that YEC is built upon nothing more than a severe violation of Exodus 20:16, what does that say about the validity of the entire bible? Really, if one has to make stuff up and deliberately misrepresent science, it is not much of an incentive to believe in God.

Actually, Exodus 20:16 applies better to evolution, than to YEC.

And taking evolution as a gestalt, it applies to particulate, galactic, stellar, planetary, chemical, and [macro]biological evolution as well.

 

[HitchSlap]

Actually, Exodus 20:16 applies better to evolution, than to YEC.

And taking evolution as a gestalt, it applies to particulate, galactic, stellar, planetary, chemical, and [macro]biological evolution as well.

When we live in a multiverse, it's bound to happen, chief.

 

[Nithavela]

Good job calling all theistic evolutionists liars and atheists.

 

[RickG]

Actually, Exodus 20:16 applies better to evolution, than to YEC.

And taking evolution as a gestalt, it applies to particulate, galactic, stellar, planetary, chemical, and [macro]biological evolution as well.

Not going to let you get by with this one AV, you are completely ignoring what I am saying.

Again. Science deals only with investigating the natural world. There is no peer review literature that says anything about God one way or the other. It does not address what cannot be physically tested and falsified.

Conversely, YEC literature is full of misrepresentations of the scientific literature. It is dishonest and a direct violation of Exodus 20:16. YEC is not different view or opinion, it is misrepresentation of well documented science. This behavior does no favors for Christianity.

 

[AV1611VET]

You know very well that there are many theistic evolutionists... who engage with them right here in this forum.

That's right.

So let's put this verse in context.

Romans 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Romans 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

How many right here on CF have ... like you ... professed to be a Christian at one time, but "had questions his pastor couldn't answer"?

(I believe it was a priest, in your case?)

You, of all people, should understand that passage.

Also, a name doesn't lead to atheism. Remember Shakespeare? "What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet."

There's more to it than just calling oneself by that moniker.

That just starts the process.

Like I said, not everyone ends up like that ... but they run the risk.

 

[AV1611VET]

Good job calling all theistic evolutionists liars and atheists.

Are you talking to me?

If so, should I start with you?

Do you remember I saying this?

Not all the time, but they that do that are putting themselves at risk.

 

[RickG]

Do you remember I saying this?

Originally Posted by AV1611VET

Not all the time, but they that do that are putting themselves at risk.
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Yes, our opinion.

 

[AV1611VET]

There is no peer review literature that says anything about God one way or the other.

I disagree.

Maybe it doesn't overtly, but when it creates paradigms that go contrary to the Scriptures, it is saying plenty about God.

Remember my answer to those who ask me why I feel confident to say evolution can take a hike, when I don't know a thing about it?

I answer them by saying that I don't have to know anything about it; as long as I believe in its antithesis (i.e., a literal Genesis 1 creation week).

Science is the same way.

It doesn't have to know or address God or the Bible directly.

Just affirming Their antitheses is enough.

 

[Loudmouth]

I agree, you either believe we evolved or you believe a supernatural being made us, you either believe in magic or you don't, if you want an afterlife then you had better start believing in magic today.

Beware of false dichotomies.

Do you have to either believe in either Phlogiston or God as the cause of fire? Actually, no. A failed scientific theory does not automatically evidence God, or any supernatural entity for that matter. There is always the possibility that a scientific theory is wrong AND there is a natural cause.

 

[RickG]

I disagree.
Remember my answer to those who ask me why I feel confident to say evolution can take a hike, when I don't know a thing about it?

Yes, that is called sticking ones' head in the sand out of fear of learning something you refuse to believe, even if God himself told you.

It [science] doesn't have to know or address God or the Bible directly.
Just affirming Their antitheses is enough.[/quote]

Contrary to YEC, I prefer regard God's evidence over the written word of man, of which there have been many hands involved.

 

[AV1611VET]

I agree, you either believe we evolved or you believe a supernatural being made us, you either believe in magic or you don't, if you want an afterlife then you had better start believing in magic today.

No, thank you.

Magic is for wimps.

I'm saved by a Miracle Worker, not a magician.

 

[AV1611VET]

Contrary to YEC, I prefer regard God's evidence over the written word of man, of which there have been many hands involved.

Then I submit you've fallen victim to another of Paul's warnings.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

 

[Blue Box]

Don't forget that the Earth had billions of years and numerous environments to create life, while scientists have only been trying since the 1950's. I think that we’ve made good progress. And, even if we're not smart enough to understand the origin of life, that doesn't mean that some god did it.