Evolution and the Circle of Life.

[AV1611VET]

We need to test our hypotheses to establish how valid they are.

Seriously?

You want to subject subjects to D&D, Ouija Boards, Tarot cards, and the like, just to see if they become demon possessed or not?

Is science really prepared to tell if someone has a demon or not?

Can science make the distinction between demon possession and demon oppression?

Or does science even begin -- even remotely begin -- even vaguely remotely in the slightest degree begin to know what to look for, when it comes to the spiritual world?

A scientist wouldn't know what to do with a deck of Tarot cards, if it came with a set of instructions.

All science would do is subject subjects to some kind of myopic testing, conclude everything is inconclusive, then let their subjects go.

And they would leave worse off than when they arrived.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Seriously?

You want to subject subjects to D&D, Ouija Boards, Tarot cards, and the like, just to see if they become demon possessed or not?

Is science really prepared to tell if someone has a demon or not?

Can science make the distinction between demon possession and demon oppression?

Or does science even begin -- even remotely begin -- even vaguely remotely in the slightest degree begin to know what to look for, when it comes to the spiritual world?

A scientist wouldn't know what to do with a deck of Tarot cards, if it came with a set of instructions.

All science would do is subject subjects to some kind of myopic testing, conclude everything is inconclusive, then let their subjects go.

And they would leave worse off than when they arrived.

I just want to ask something on this since you've brought up stuff from the 1980's:

Do you think that Doom, a game where you go around killing demons from Hell, using shotguns, machine guns, bazookas and chainsaws, is a pathway to Satanism and demonic possession?

 

[AV1611VET]

I just want to ask something on this since you've brought up stuff from the 1980's:

Do you think that Doom, a game where you go around killing demons from Hell, using shotguns, machine guns, bazookas and chainsaws, is a pathway to Satanism and demonic possession?

I do.

And since you brought up Doom, I played almost every single installment of that game, and even bought a 100+ page manual to learn every single trap door it came with.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I do.

And since you brought up Doom, I played almost every single installment of that game, and even bought a 100+ page manual to learn every single trap door it came with.

.... that addendum was not the addendum I expected to that answer.

 

[Diamond72]

You want to subject subjects to D&D, Ouija Boards, Tarot cards, and the like, just to see if they become demon possessed or not?

There is no evidence to suggest that Walt Disney or the Walt Disney Company has ever subjected themselves to D&D, Ouija Boards, Tarot Cards, or any other similar practices in order to test whether they become demon possessed or not. Such practices are not typically associated with the Walt Disney brand or its founders, and there is no reason to believe that they have ever engaged in such activities. It is important to be cautious of baseless rumors and conspiracy theories without any credible evidence to support them.

Is science really prepared to tell if someone has a demon or not?

Science is not able to determine whether someone has a demon or not because demons are supernatural entities that belong to the realm of religion and spirituality, not subject to scientific inquiry or empirical testing. Therefore, claims of demonic possession should be evaluated from a religious or spiritual perspective, rather than a scientific one.

 

[Diamond72]

Doom, a game where you go around killing demons from Hell,

I use to play Tetris and super mario brothers.

 

[Diamond72]

Part of the problem with these "allegories" (or whatever they are) is that you are assuming that we've seen a couple kids movies.

Oh, I did not know you do not have any kids. The Bible makes it clear that you have to become as a child to enter into the things of God. You become disqualified if you can not think on the most basic and simple of terms. I was did fifth grade, third grade, first grade and preschool level and you do not understand?

 

[AV1611VET]

There is no evidence to suggest that Walt Disney or the Walt Disney Company has ever subjected themselves to D&D, Ouija Boards, Tarot Cards, or any other similar practices in order to test whether they become demon possessed or not.

LOL

YOU'RE the one that brought Disney into this in Post 8.

 

[Diamond72]

I notice you are not trying to proselytize a competing religion of the 'circle of life'

Walt Disney is a religion? I was comparing lion king with the science of evolution. There is a best-selling book called Paradigm that is written by a Messianic Christian. Even they have discussions for them.

 

[Diamond72]

YOU'RE the one that brought Disney into this in Post 8.

yes, I am comparing Disney's circle of life with Science and the theory of evolution. That is what this forum is Physical and life Sciences. Usually when we talk archetypes Jung comes into the conversation. In this case I am talking about how Walt Disney and Johneth Cain uses archetypes and paradigms.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I use to play Tetris and super mario brothers.

Didn't ask and I don't care.

 

[Diamond72]

Part of the problem with these "allegories" (or whatever they are) is that you are assuming that we've seen a couple kids movies.

Like I said Jonathan Cahn is Messianic and they have a Messianic board on this forum. So I assume that they are not anti semetic here.

Jonathan Cahn discusses archetypes in his book "The Paradigm." Specifically, he uses archetypes to explore the similarities between certain historical figures and events in ancient Israel and those in contemporary American politics. Cahn argues that certain political figures in America are "archetypes" that can be traced back to biblical characters, such as Ahab, Jezebel, and Jehu. He uses these archetypes to suggest that there may be parallels between the actions of biblical figures and modern-day politicians, and to make predictions about the future of American politics. However, it is worth noting that Cahn's approach to interpreting history and politics is controversial and has been criticized by some scholars and commentators.

 

[Diamond72]

I look forward (not) to your post based on "Jurassic Park"

I was disappointed that the dinosaurs did not have feathers on them.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I was disappointed that the dinosaurs did not have feathers on them.

You claim to be old enough to be around at the time that film was released: did you know at the time that certain dinosaurs had feathers?

 

[Halbhh]

Walt Disney is a religion? I was comparing lion king with the science of evolution. There is a best-selling book called Paradigm that is written by a Messianic Christian. Even they have discussions for them.

Is Disney stuff a religion to anyone? I don't know. I think very very few if any and I'd just say "no" generally.

Many of the popular Disney movies are helpful even I think. At their best moments, the most popular Disney movies I've seen often have a great thread of longing in them, a wishing for what is better. That can even for some be a reminder that there is something missing in their lives.

That something missing we most long for is God of course, and it's helpful to remind people of what they already feel but sometimes lose touch with.

That's why I think many Disney movies are beneficial.

Sometimes people might remember a longing....for something they really want down in their souls. (I was just making a music thread where that's a good way to say what the theme is...)

 

[Larniavc]

Archetypes are universal patterns of behavior, thought, and symbols that are found across cultures and time periods. They are often associated with the work of Carl Jung, who believed that these archetypes were innate to the human psyche and served as the building blocks of the collective unconscious.

Both the theory of evolution and the concept of the circle of life can be seen as related to archetypes in that they describe universal patterns and processes that are found across different living systems. The theory of evolution, for example, describes how organisms adapt and change over time through natural selection and genetic variation, which can be seen as a kind of archetypal process of growth and transformation.

Similarly, the circle of life describes the interconnectedness of all living things in nature, as well as the cyclical nature of birth, death, and rebirth in ecosystems. This can be seen as an archetypal symbol of the eternal cycle of life and death, which has been present in human cultures for thousands of years.

In this sense, both evolution and the circle of life can be seen as expressions of archetypal patterns that are woven into the fabric of the natural world and the human psyche.

Is this cut and pasted from a ChatBot?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Is this cut and pasted from a ChatBot?

It always is. He's flat out admitted in other threads that he won't talk to people and will only use a ChatBot to talk for him.

 

[Larniavc]

I am mostly quoting ChatGpt, so you may want to take that up with Bill Gates.

Ah, so any discussion with you is a discussion with a ChatBox. This whole thread is pointless.

 

[Neutral Observer]

Ah, so any discussion with you is a discussion with a ChatBox. This whole thread is pointless.

Actually I find this thread to be quite interesting, and a useful insight into the mind of ChatGpt. It makes me wonder just what you find so pointless about the whole concept of having a rational discussion with a ChatBot, as compared to the often irrational discussions that seem to be the norm around here.

A rational thought is a rational thought no matter the source... right?

 

[Larniavc]

Actually I find this thread to be quite interesting, and a useful insight into the mind of ChatGpt. It makes me wonder just what you find so pointless about the whole concept of having a rational discussion with a ChatBot, as compared to the often irrational discussions that seem to be the norm around here.

A rational thought is a rational thought no matter the source... right?

That might be the case but we're not talking to ChatBot we are talking to ChatBot via Diamond 7 as interlocuter. They kind of get in the way