Evolution and Shaving

[Doveaman]

People with facial hair are considered less trustworthy.
If you goal is to be considered more trustworthy and
respected, then you shave.

Did Jesus shave often?

 

[AV1611VET]

Did Jesus shave often?

No.[VERSE=Isaiah 50:6,KJV]I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.[/VERSE]

 

[SkyWriting]

Did Jesus shave often?

I would guess only the most wealthy had the resources.

 

[Shemjaza]

I would guess only the most wealthy had the resources.

I'd assume that as religious Jews they all had beards.

 

[Jan Volkes]

I'd assume that as religious Jews they all had beards.

And the smell would have knocked you out.

 

[SkyWriting]

And the smell would have knocked you out.

They were a pretty clean people. They had standards.
They were big on what was clean, and what was not.
There's a fair amount of documentation on that.

 

[Jan Volkes]

They were a pretty clean people. They had standards.
They were big on what was clean, and what was not.
There's a fair amount of documentation on that.

If they had the same standards as they have today but without the technology available to them today,
open sewers, rotting veg and sweat, the smell would have knocked you out.

 

[Jan Volkes]

Did Jesus shave often?

Did Jesus use the bathroom that's the question?

 

[SkyWriting]

If they had the same standards as they have today but without the technology available to them today,
open sewers, rotting veg and sweat, the smell would have knocked you out.

There's a fair amount of documentation on that.

 

[Jan Volkes]

There's a fair amount of documentation on that.

Are you saying there were no open sewers and there was no rotting vegetables in the streets and no one sweated?
they lived with their animals and were covered in lice and fleas, everyone was everywhere, children in Europe only a 150 years ago were sewn into their clothes for the winter.

This is only a 100 years ago, as you can see all the people are spotlessly clean.

 

[SkyWriting]

Are you saying there were no open sewers and there was no rotting vegetables in the streets and no one sweated?
they lived with their animals and were covered in lice and fleas, everyone was everywhere, children in Europe only a 150 years ago were sewn into their clothes for the winter.This is only a 100 years ago, as you can see all the people are spotlessly clean.

In Milwaukee: "Sewage was handled on site in outhouses. Stormwater ran in the streets. The first sewers were built more than 130 years ago and carried sewage, untreated, and stormwater directly to the rivers and Lake Michigan."

Meanwhile, across the lake:
Rabbinic Judaism, the normative form of Judaism that developed after the fall of the Temple of Jerusalem (ad 70).

Traditional Judaism requires certain types of ritual washing.
Some of these types do not require a special ritual body of water (and can be done with tap water):

1. Netilat yadayim ("Raising [after ritually washing] the hands"), also known as Mayim Rishonim, which is done with a blessing, prior to eating any bread with a meal
   1. Mayim acharonim ("After-waters") a law or custom of ritually washing one's fingers after a meal, to protect oneself from touching the eyes with hazardous residue.[3]
2. Netilat Yadayim Shacharit ("Raising [after ritually washing] the hands of the morning"), when getting up in the morning[4] after a full night's sleep, or even after a lengthy nap, by pouring a large cup of water over one's hands, alternating three times.
3. Netilat yadayim (without a blessing) to remove tuma ("impurity") after:
   1. Touching objects[ambiguous] that convey tumah such as:
      1. A part of the body customarily covered[4] (private parts, back, arm pits, etc.)
      2. Inside of nose or ear
      3. The scalp (but not if one just touched the hair)
      4. Leather shoes
      5. A ritually unclean animal[citation needed] or insect
   2. Cutting one's hair or nails
   3. Taking off one's shoes[4]
   4. Visiting a cemetery[4]
   5. Sexual intercourse.[4] Some communities observe a requirement for washing one's body (which may be done with tap water) after the above or after otherwise experiencing a seminal emission since these activities make the man baal keri (one who is impure due to [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse].)
4. After visiting the bathroom,[4] the ritual washing of one's hands as a symbol of both bodily cleanliness and of removing human impurity – see Netilat yadayim above.
5. To remove tumat met ("impurity from death") after participating in a funeral procession or coming within four cubits of a corpse
6. During a Passover Seder, netilat yadayim[5] is performed without any blessing being recited, before the eating of a vegetable, called karpas, prior to the main meal.
7. Every Kohen present has his hands ritually washed in synagogue by the Levi'im (Levites) before uttering the Priestly Blessing in front of the congregation.
8. Some have the custom of washing their hands prior to scribal work

 

[Jan Volkes]

In Milwaukee: "Sewage was handled on site in outhouses. Stormwater ran in the streets. The first sewers were built more than 130 years ago and carried sewage, untreated, and stormwater directly to the rivers and Lake Michigan."

What do you think it was like 2000 years ago in a hot middle east? do you think they piped their sewage into the Med?

 

[SkyWriting]

What do you think it was like 2000 years ago in a hot middle east? do you think they piped their sewage into the Med?

It was mostly a rural area. 130 years ago the CITY OF Milwaukee had no sewers either. We had outbuildings with pits.
Many of our nations parks use this system today.

 

[Loudmouth]

It was mostly a rural area. 130 years ago the CITY OF Milwaukee had no sewers either. We had outbuildings with pits.
Many of our nations parks use this system today.

Have you been to those honey holes in the national parks? They do have a very distinct odor, and if the wind is blowing in the right direction you won't have a problem finding one.

 

[Doveaman]

No.[VERSE=Isaiah 50:6,KJV]I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair[/VERSE]

That makes sense.

Why would God create us to grow a beard if it was not His intent for us to grow a beard?

 

[SkyWriting]

That makes sense.

Why would God create us to grow a beard if it was not His intent for us to grow a beard?

And many grow bald before they die so God can pat them on the head in heaven.

 

[Jan Volkes]

Have you been to those honey holes in the national parks? They do have a very distinct odor, and if the wind is blowing in the right direction you won't have a problem finding one.

Accepting childishness as being part of creationism was the first hurdle I had to overcome when I came to this forum,
now I am not in the least bit surprised when it shows up in virtually every creationists post.

 

[Doveaman]

And many grow bald before they die so God can pat them on the head in heaven.

Growing bald is a result of the fall.

 

[Gracchus]

You are a person, I see, who makes unwarranted assumptions about what I mean.

100% of my day. As does everyone. "Unwarranted" assumptions are typically swept up in the tidal wave of "warranted" assumptions people use all day long to survive in society.

Actually, not "everyone" makes unwarranted assumptions 100% of the time. You are projecting. The thief assumes everyone steals, the adulterer assumes everyone cheats, und so weiter, because it gives them an excuse: "Everyone does it."
In any event, I was addressing what you posted. Some folks make it a point to think just a bit harder about what they write.

“The fact that the author thinks slowly is not serious, but the fact that he publishes faster than he thinks is inexcusable." -- Wolfgang Pauli

 

[SkyWriting]

In any event, I was addressing what you posted. Some folks make it a point to think just a bit harder about what they write.

Aw shucks. But I think you're projecting again.