Evolution actually does make sense.

[MoonLancer]

I for one think that creation should remain as a belief and not made into a scientific theory...

Well your in luck. A theory explains facts and there are no facts for creationism to explain.

 

[MoonLancer]

Show me evolution in the Bible.

did Adam and eve speak english?

 

[Mr Dave]

In my opinion, Christianity and evolution don't mix.

Evolution -- to Christianity -- is blasphemy; whereas Christianity -- to evolution -- should be foolishness.

The fact that evolution was not taught by Jesus and was not even codified until the late 19th century should be good enough to convince anyone that evolution has no part in the Christian mindset.

Show me evolution in the Bible.

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That's not a particularly convincing line of argument. The Bible is not a scientific book so the absence of science is no big surprise.
The theory of evolution came about after many years of study in the domain of the natural sciences, each bit (as in all sciences) being built upon what previous generations and learnt and understood. ToE couldn't come about before then as humans hadn't learnt enough to fully understand it. Why would Jesus take a break from His message regarding the good news of salvation, to have a tangential conversation about something which would have had nothing to do with His message and would have made no sense to any hearers. All sorts of bizarre theologies would have appeared trying to make sense of the weird tangential story, also prompting discussion when we finally understood evolution as to why Jesus didn't also talk about the periodic table, quarks, magnetism, electricity, microbiology etc... Then the argument would be, "well Jesus spoke of this, so it must be true, so we know He spoke of Science. he didn't speak of these other things, therefore they can't be true."

Your logic suggests that we shouldn't have anything to do with anything that isn't explicitly mentioned in the Bible or around in the Ancient World. The Bible mentions God creating creatures which can fly, and to quote from Diamonds Are Forever when they blow up someone in a helicopter "If God had wanted us to fly, he would have given us wings." I assume you've never been in aeroplane or used modern medicine etc...

 

[Mr Dave]

did Adam and eve speak english?

They didn't but Jesus did.

If English was good enough for... at BrainyQuote

 

[Cabal]

In my opinion, Christianity and evolution don't mix.

Evolution -- to Christianity -- is blasphemy; whereas Christianity -- to evolution -- should be foolishness.

The fact that evolution was not taught by Jesus and was not even codified until the late 19th century should be good enough to convince anyone that evolution has no part in the Christian mindset.

Show me evolution in the Bible.

If evolution is wrong by this logic, then so is riding a bicycle.

 

[British Bulldog]

If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, then it's good enough for Texas.
Ma Ferguson

That's made my day.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

In my opinion, Christianity and evolution don't mix.

Evolution -- to Christianity -- is blasphemy; whereas Christianity -- to evolution -- should be foolishness.

The fact that evolution was not taught by Jesus and was not even codified until the late 19th century should be good enough to convince anyone that evolution has no part in the Christian mindset.

Show me evolution in the Bible.

Replace 'evolution' with 'atomic theory', and this same logic would require you to dismiss the theory of atoms as blasphemy.

Yet you believe in atoms, do you not?

 

[AV1611VET]

Replace 'evolution' with 'atomic theory', and this same logic would require you to dismiss the theory of atoms as blasphemy.

Yet you believe in atoms, do you not?

Show me atomic theory's antithesis.

In the Bible, creationism is to evolution as _____ is to atomic theory.

 

[Mr Dave]

Show me atomic theory's antithesis.

In the Bible, creationism is to evolution as _____ is to atomic theory.

Arguably (not that I take this view), Genesis again;

18 Then the Lord God said, ‘It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper as his partner.’ 19So out of the ground the Lord God formed every animal of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 20The man gave names to all cattle, and to the birds of the air, and to every animal of the field; but for the man there was not found a helper as his partner. 21So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; then he took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh. 22And the rib that the Lord God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man.

There's an argument to be made that this suggests that the base ingredients of all things are 'the ground' or man's ribs. Things are not made of anything as small as atoms.

 

[AV1611VET]

Arguably (not that I take this view), Genesis again;



There's an argument to be made that this suggests that the base ingredients of all things are 'the ground' or man's ribs. Things are not made of anything as small as atoms.

Would you fill in the blank, please?

 

[Mr Dave]

Would you fill in the blank, please?

No I can't because unlike Creationism, there isn't a group that I know of which has diverted from orthodox teaching or from scientific understanding to use these texts to promote such a view, so there isn't an all-encompassing word with which to fill in the blank. This doesn't mean that an argument cannot be made.

 

[AV1611VET]

No I can't because unlike Creationism, there isn't a group that I know of which has diverted from orthodox teaching or from scientific understanding to use these texts to promote such a view, so there isn't an all-encompassing word with which to fill in the blank. This doesn't mean that an argument cannot be made.

Well, for the record, I don't believe the Bible teaches atom-to-Adam evolution -- literally or figuratively.

 

[Mr Dave]

Would you fill in the blank, please?

For your interest, after a bit of googling, I've found this;

Over time, the Catholic Church elevated Aristotle's writings to the same level as Scripture and had continued the association of atomic thinking with Godlessness. Blended with the Christian world view by Thomas Aquinas this system dominated the western world into the 17th Century. In a clerically controlled culture one would not want to publically discuss atomic theory when it was so closely identified with atheism.

Atoms and Atheism

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Show me atomic theory's antithesis.

In the Bible, creationism is to evolution as _____ is to atomic theory.

Breathism - everything is made of a continuum composed of God's breath.

Besides, your logic was that because evolution wasn't taught by Jesus or even mentioned in the Bible, it's untrustworthy. Nothing about an antithesis:

"The fact that evolution was not taught by Jesus and was not even codified until the late 19th century should be good enough to convince anyone that evolution has no part in the Christian mindset."

Emphasis mine. Is that fact alone good enough, or are you now invoking extra caveats?

 

[TerranceL]

Ah the ol' reset button

Irrefutable evidence against Darwinism A

Irrefutable evidence against Darwinism B

Irrefutable evidence against Darwinism C

Irrefutable evidence against Darwinism D

Execute Reset: "but from what I've learned, evolution is undeniable."

Repeat process

Time bought- time buying

Considering the only argument you have ever provided against evolution involves bicycles making babies could you provide some of this "irrefutable evidence" you speak about?

 

[Split Rock]

Show me atomic theory's antithesis.

In the Bible, creationism is to evolution as _____ is to atomic theory.

OK:

In the Bible, creationism is to evolution as Plato's Four Elements is to atomic theory. How's that?

 

[AV1611VET]

OK:

In the Bible, creationism is to evolution as Plato's Four Elements is to atomic theory. How's that?

Not bad --

(But weren't they Aristotle's four elements?)

 

[Split Rock]

Psst -- I heard a rumor that one of the largest mosques in Europe, situated in London, was built by creationists.

Are you aligning yourself now with Muslim Fundamentalists?

 

[Split Rock]

Not bad --

(But weren't they Aristotle's four elements?)

Who do you think Aristotle learned them from? In any case, they go back a long way... supposedly before Socrates.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_element

 

[AV1611VET]

Are you aligning yourself now with Muslim Fundamentalists?

If this is the alternative:

Creationism is mostly an American phenomenon...

... yes.