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Is that the No True Scottsman Fallacy I see? How serious a person is about their studies may have a strong correlation with the quality of their work, but it in no way determines that their work will be good, or match yours.No, that isn't correct. Any serious biblical scholar will tell you that the OT did in fact sanctify slavery. Read Exod. 21. In the NT, read Paul.
Typical response of those who don't carefully read Scripture. Exod. 21:20 states,"When a man strikes his slave or his salve-girl with a stick and the slave dies on the spot, he must be punished. But he is not to be punished if the slave survives for one day or two, because the slave is his property. "... can take a hike.
If they can't talk without having to pluto terms in the Bible, they can take their garbage elsewhere.
You're justifying changing "servant" to "slave," and then then telling me about "wordplay"?I guess you mean the planet, but it is more humorous to imagine you mean the Romanized version of the Greek god Hades. You probably think that if us atheists don't know more about that now, we will soon enoughand the dark humor of that and wordplay that are at my expense don't humor me any less for it.
I already cited you direct OT quotes that debunk you here. Did you pay any attention to them? Also, historically, there was often no real difference between being a servant and a slave.You're justifying changing "servant" to "slave," and then then telling me about "wordplay"?
Alrighty, then.
I'll be you think God's miracles were God's magic, don't you?
(In the Old Testament, that is. We need to stipulate that, don't we? Wez smart cookies.)
No, it doesn't.Exod. 21:20 states,"When a man strikes his slave or his salve-girl with a stick ...
Right.Also, historically, there was often no real difference between being a servant and a slave.
Democracy is about the worst form of government, except when you consider the alternatives. Also, it takes far more talent and skill to govern over a democracy than to govern as a tyrant, enlightened or otherwise. Remember, an enlightened tyrant is still a tyrant.Let's not end up worshiping democracy (or even Democracy). It has its own flaws and weaknesses, even if not so dire ones as other forms of governing that have been tried.
The most effective form of government is almost certainly that of an enlightened benevolent dictator.
The problem comes with ensuring your dictator is and remains that way, and how to change the ruler if they are not.
Cue:
"King, are you? Well I didn't vote for you."
I also mean the NT as well. Paul advised the slave to go s back to his master.He said in the Old Testament, not the New Testament AV.
Yep, I'm one smart cookie. Therefore, I know exactly what to do. Go and read the Bible. Apparently reading Scripture is not among the skills in your response repertoire. I just posted some direct quotes from Exod. Too bad you haven't paid any attention to them.He's a smart cookie, ain't he?
I'll bet he knows more about Pluto than I, too.
It does here, however. The reason I say that is because the academic world of modern biblical scholarship has research tools, education, and linguistic skills in place way beyond what the laity have. Hence, the conclusions scholarship presents are based on a far more objective and extensive study of the Bible.Is that the No True Scottsman Fallacy I see? How serious a person is about their studies may have a strong correlation with the quality of their work, but it in no way determines that their work will be good, or match yours.
No... I was making a dark joke. Because thinking we know more about Pluto than you (Pluto is the Romanized version of Hades, the Greek god of the underworld and also another term for Hell). And I said if we don't now, we will later (as per your belief system, atheists go to hell). That's how it's a play on words, because knowing you, you meant the planet.You're justifying changing "servant" to "slave," and then then telling me about "wordplay"?
Alrighty, then.
I'll be you think God's miracles were God's magic, don't you?
(In the Old Testament, that is. We need to stipulate that, don't we? Wez smart cookies.)
Right.
And what was the Civil War fought over then?
Cotton?
Oh, c'mon. That makes absolutely no sense and you know it.Two can play this game.
Okay ... you wanna dance?
Let's dance.
No, it doesn't.
It says "dart" (shebet).
Really?Oh, c'mon. That makes absolutely no sense and you know it.
Shebet, which you brought up, means to be hit with a rod. What on earth does Hebrews have to do with this?Really?
Hebrews 12:20 For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:
If they can thrust an animal through with a dart, they certainly can thrust a slave through with one.
(See how fun this is?)
No, it doesn't.Shebet, which you brought up, means to be hit with a rod. What on earth does Hebrews have to do with this?
I am actually a bit shocked you'd bother with the Hebrew, given that you personally consider the English King James Bible to be the most accurate.No, it doesn't.
Shebet is a noun.
The verb in Exodus 21:20 is nakah.
From my interlinear software:
Ex 21:20 And if a man <'iysh> smite <nakah> his servant, <`ebed> or his maid, <'amah> with a rod, <shebet> and he die <muwth> under his hand; <yad> he shall be surely <naqam> punished. <naqam> {punished: Heb. avenged}
No, it doesn't.
Shebet is a noun.
The verb in Exodus 21:20 is nakah.
From my interlinear software:
Ex 21:20 And if a man <'iysh> smite <nakah> his servant, <`ebed> or his maid, <'amah> with a rod, <shebet> and he die <muwth> under his hand; <yad> he shall be surely <naqam> punished. <naqam> {punished: Heb. avenged}
In case you didn't notice, the word was servant/maid, not slave, in his post.Yes, I understand that. What I was trying to say is that as used in Exod. , it is in the context of being hit with a rod, just as you mentioned above. So I don't see what point you were trying to make in bringing it up in the first place.
It makes no difference. Saying we should use "servant" rather than "slave" is simply putting lipstick on a pig, and you know it and he does, too.In case you didn't notice, the word was servant/maid, not slave, in his post.
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