Dave Ellis
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everything was intelligently designed, not a tree of life but a grass field of life, with everything sprouting it's own shoot of the tree of life. The tree of life as held by darwin is false. That which all common descend is based.
I showed this by revealing my quotes on the cambrian explosion.
but you believe it was first, so the quotes that apply to rna world still aptly apply. Sad to say.
I asked you a question. Why are you avoiding answering it. According to ID (creationism) how did life come to be? I want more than God did it. I need the same details any scientific theory would give. I need to know the WHO and the HOW. Do you even know yourself? Why are you avoiding the question?redherring, you are changing the subject from abiogenesis which you are fuzzy on.
Stop trying to make me say stuff I'm not saying.
I do not believe that RNA was the first storage molecule for genetic information, therefore I do not accept the RNA world hypothesis. I do accept that RNA is a molecular catalyst, therefore it was likely a very important biomolecule early on due to its ease of formation and oligomeric stability.
Stop trying to make me say stuff I'm not saying.
Get ready for a lot of frustration... he's going to do that a lot to you, and not listen to your clarifications.
Get ready for a lot of frustration... he's going to do that a lot to you, and not listen to your clarifications.
Oh, I know.But it's good practice, right? We all have to deal with people who aren't interested in listening to ideas they're uncomfortable with: may as well make them damn uncomfortable.
I don't understand this field as well as a biologist but I still have questions:
do you believe RNA was self replicating? And secondly you said RNA was first Here: "the first molecule"
I said it was the first meaningful molecule. The first molecules were likely phospholipids (fats that form vesicles, analogous to cell membranes), but they're not particularly interesting and we know they definitely form on their own.
I don't think it was self replicating, as of itself. Happy to be proven wrong.
From the Oxford dictionary:you shouldn't cuss on these forums.
okay so tell me more about your first meaningful catalyst.
how did life start?
IYO
Why don't you answer the same question? I have asked you 3 times so far.
Notice how he asks but refuses to answer to the same question? It is common practice for ID (creationism) to attack ToE as if this will prove their God did it hypothesis.I don't know, and neither does anyone else.
If they say that they do they are either lying, or very selfish for not explaining it to the rest of us properly.
From the Oxford dictionary:
Definition of damn in English
damn
Pronunciation: /dam/
Translate damn | into French | into German | into Italian | into Spanish verb
[with object]
- 1 (be damned) (in Christian belief) be condemned by God to suffer eternal punishment in hell: I treated her badly and Ill be damned to hell for it
- be doomed to misfortune or failure:the enterprise was damned
exclamation
- 2criticize strongly:the book damns her husband
- curse (someone or something):she cleared her throat, damning it for its huskiness damn him for making this sound trivial
informal
adjective
- expressing anger or frustration:Damn! I completely forgot!
[attributive] informal used for emphasis, especially to express anger or frustration:turn that damn thing off! [as submodifier]:dont be so damn silly!
I don't know, and neither does anyone else.
If they say that they do they are either lying, or very selfish for not explaining it to the rest of us properly.
Notice how he asks but refuses to answer to the same question? It is common practice for ID (creationism) to attack ToE as if this will prove their God did it hypothesis.
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