Evidence for Creation / against Evolution

[Redwolf]

And you can't name it and apparently never will.

You exercise in moving the goalsposts has been noted. You are a great creationist.

My initial request was to name the first ingredient. Then folks came along and futzed around with what I said to make it conform to what they think I said.
Did you say something about goalposts?

 

[DJ_Ghost]

My initial request was to name the first ingredient. Then folks came along and futzed around with what I said to make it conform to what they think I said.
Did you say something about goalposts?

They gave you the first ingredient, perhaps what you mean is first cause? You can not expect them to answer a question you are codifying so vaguely.

Ghost

 

[Redwolf]

Well if the first ingredient isn't amino acids then it must be:

Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen and nitrogen

So now we've got that sorted what next?

Oh! it's not that either.

I suggest you learn what your looking for, no point asking us to findsomething if you can't describe it

I described it rather well.

You are just not seeing it because it does not occur to you that nothing happens without something. You must have something to get something.........you know, that first ingredient.

 

[Redwolf]

They gave you the first ingredient, perhaps what you mean is first cause? You can not expect them to answer a question you are codifying so vaguely.

Ghost

When you make brownies, you need a first ingredient.
When you make a universe, you need the same, regardless of who/what makes it.
I see no code, only people who do not see past the tip of their nose.

 

[caravelair]

When you make brownies, you need a first ingredient.
When you make a universe, you need the same, regardless of who/what makes it.
I see no code, only people who do not see past the tip of their nose.

therefore the first ingredient is god? sorry, that's not a logical conclusion. are you familiar with the problem of "god of the gaps" arguments? a better answer would be "i don't know what the 'first ingredient' was". it's honest, at least. and who says we have to know what the first ingredient was to know what happened afterwards?

 

[rmwilliamsll]

When you make brownies, you need a first ingredient.
When you make a universe, you need the same, regardless of who/what makes it.
I see no code, only people who do not see past the tip of their nose.

i'll bite,
when you make brownies, what is the first ingredient you put into the mixing bowl?

is it required to be done with only this ingredient? is the mixing bowl a requirement?
how about the size, color and composition of the mixing bowl, are they always the same?

after all of these questions, does varying these things change the taste of the brownies?

 

[Baggins]

I described it rather well.

You are just not seeing it because it does not occur to you that nothing happens without something. You must have something to get something.........you know, that first ingredient.

Ahhh I see you want us to tell you what created god!

I see

Sorry don't know the answer to that, perhaps it was self replicating chemicals.

 

[lightencandle]

Is there any evidence that the Universe was created by a divine entity? Is there any evidence that this is the same Divinity as a particular terrestrial monotheism, namely Christianity?

As a side note, I read in another thread that 'The Big Bang and Evolution hypotheses fail terribly" in terms of evidence. Where do either fail? We have doppler shift, background microwave radiation, the fossil record, pæleogeographical and geological dating evidences, etc etc.

One can accept the theory of evolution and still believe in creation. You are arguing against a group of Christians (not all Christians) who believe they are fighting for their religion, not against biologists.

 

[DJ_Ghost]

When you make brownies, you need a first ingredient.
When you make a universe, you need the same, regardless of who/what makes it.

Then the first ingredient of life is amino acids, whilst the first ingredient of the universe is energy. See how easy it is when you clarify your question?

Ghost