Everlasting life

[jayem]

Interesting article from several years ago on Turritopsis dohrnii, a species of jellyfish, native to the Mediterranean. The adult, known as a medusa, is small--about 4.5mm in height and width--and feeds on plankton, fish eggs, and small mollusks. There are separate males and females. Fertilized egg develop into a larval stage known as a planula. These settle on the sea floor and grow into a colony of polyps. After further growth, they become medusae, which detach and become free-swimming adult jellyfish. Here's what's remarkable: if the young medusa is non-fatally injured, or stressed, it can return to the polyp stage, and regrow into a new medusa. Unless the jellyfish killed by a predator, pollution, or some other event, it theoretically can live forever by recycling itself. All animals--Homo sapiens included-- have genes that code for organ development and growth beginning at infancy. But these genes turn off once adult status is reached. Apparently, the genes of this jellyfish allow it to restart this process. And theoretically, it can regenerate itself indefinitely.

So maybe eternal life is possible without religion. We just need to know how to turn on the right genes.

Everlasting life: the ‘immortal’ jellyfish

 

[Paulos23]

Lazarus Long agrees.

 

[sandman]

Interesting article from several years ago on Turritopsis dohrnii, a species of jellyfish, native to the Mediterranean. The adult, known as a medusa, is small--about 4.5mm in height and width--and feeds on plankton, fish eggs, and small mollusks. There are separate males and females. Fertilized egg develop into a larval stage known as a planula. These settle on the sea floor and grow into a colony of polyps. After further growth, they become medusae, which detach and become free-swimming adult jellyfish. Here's what's remarkable: if the young medusa is non-fatally injured, or stressed, it can return to the polyp stage, and regrow into a new medusa. Unless the jellyfish killed by a predator, pollution, or some other event, it theoretically can live forever by recycling itself. All animals--Homo sapiens included-- have genes that code for organ development and growth beginning at infancy. But these genes turn off once adult status is reached. Apparently, the genes of this jellyfish allow it to restart this process. And theoretically, it can regenerate itself indefinitely.

So maybe eternal life is possible without religion. We just need to know how to turn on the right genes.

Everlasting life: the ‘immortal’ jellyfish

Except jellyfish are not mammals like us, with soul life (blood) ….they are Cnidaria.
But you are welcome to try it that way ….and I will go the biblical route...

If I see a jellyfish in heaven... I will give you a high-5 ….... but don’t sting me!

 

[Blade]

"So maybe eternal life is possible without religion". If one just asks from your heart He will always answer. But that being said what God makes is never death.

Eternal life only comes from believing in Yeshua. Don't believe me.. ask Him. If He is so real ask Him. I know so many Muslims that did just this. Call on all the so called gods only one will answer. God as a rapper said is only real when we are dying lying on our death bed and before that its God go away don't need ya.

Everything God makes is life.

 

[d taylor]

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Everyone (people wise) has eternal life, it is just some will spend it in one place. While others which posses a different eternal life and that is The Messiah's Eternal life. Will eventually spend it (life) on the new earth.

As for this jellyfish it is something God designed this way so it should be of no surprise, if that is true/correct.

 

[jayem]

Except jellyfish are not mammals like us, with soul life (blood) ….they are Cnidaria.
But you are welcome to try it that way ….and I will go the biblical route...

Just keep in mind that H. sapiens and T. dohrnii both have double-stranded DNA. That’s where the action is. The biological term for what the jellyfish can do is transdifferentiation. One type of cell is transformed into another. The DNA in its genome is activated to transform an adult into a juvenile. I’m not in any way saying an adult man or woman should become a child. But we may have genes that can regenerate healthy heart muscle in someone who’s had a severe heart attack. We may even be able to regrow neurons damaged by a stroke. We’ve already cured sickle cell anemia in some patients by gene modification. Maybe some day we can manipulate our DNA to essentially reboot our aging bodies. Who knows what medical science may achieve 100 or more years in the future?

 

[AV1611VET]

I’m not in any way saying an adult man or woman should become a child.

Did jellyfish come from the planet Ork?

 

[jayem]

Did jellyfish come from the planet Ork?

No. They’re from Waterworld.

 

[Yaaten]

Why would anyone want to live forever though?

 

[46AND2]

Anybody who desires eternal life doesn't fully grasp the concept, imo. Don't get me wrong, if I live long enough to download my consciousness into a virtual world, I'm'a live for a long freaking time. Forever? No thanks. Gimme a killswitch.

 

[Yaaten]

Anybody who desires eternal life doesn't fully grasp the concept, imo. Don't get me wrong, if I live long enough to download my consciousness into a virtual world, I'm'a live for a long freaking time. Forever? No thanks. Gimme a killswitch.

"Download" your consciousness? Well, according to the naturalistic paradigm, there is nothing there to actually "download", because it's all just the brain doing something apparently, and there is no "ghost in the machine". It's an absurd position to take of course, but what can you do?

 

[46AND2]

"Download" your consciousness? Well, according to the naturalistic paradigm, there is nothing there to actually "download", because it's all just the brain doing something apparently, and there is no "ghost in the machine". It's an absurd position to take of course, but what can you do?

so be it. hope for the best, expect the worst.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Interesting article from several years ago on Turritopsis dohrnii, a species of jellyfish, native to the Mediterranean. The adult, known as a medusa, is small--about 4.5mm in height and width--and feeds on plankton, fish eggs, and small mollusks. There are separate males and females. Fertilized egg develop into a larval stage known as a planula. These settle on the sea floor and grow into a colony of polyps. After further growth, they become medusae, which detach and become free-swimming adult jellyfish. Here's what's remarkable: if the young medusa is non-fatally injured, or stressed, it can return to the polyp stage, and regrow into a new medusa. Unless the jellyfish killed by a predator, pollution, or some other event, it theoretically can live forever by recycling itself. All animals--Homo sapiens included-- have genes that code for organ development and growth beginning at infancy. But these genes turn off once adult status is reached. Apparently, the genes of this jellyfish allow it to restart this process. And theoretically, it can regenerate itself indefinitely.

So maybe eternal life is possible without religion. We just need to know how to turn on the right genes.

Everlasting life: the ‘immortal’ jellyfish

It's interesting, but I don't see that it's really that much different to how other species persist over time. We make it more interesting by combining the genes of two individuals to make a new one with traits from both.

If we were to revert to babies every time we were injured enough not to be able to survive as adults (it's not a fatal injury if you can survive it in some way), it would be much like being cloned - it would result in a new person with the same genetics. The knowledge & experience that makes you uniquely 'you' wouldn't survive...