Ever noticed how in some maps of Pangaea....

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It's not quibbling. It's a fact.
Look at this map, and look at the locations of Egypt and it's placement on the African and Asian continent and Turkey and it's placement on the European and Asian 'continents' (obviously, Europe and Asia are the same continent but for the sake of discussion let's say they aren't) and then look at the placement of Israel.
Israel is not on the border of Europe, Asia or Africa. It is not the crossroads in to any country. To get from Europe in to Asia or Africa in to Asia, you have to go through Turkey or Egypt, no choice in the matter, but you can easily bypass Israel.

Okay, fine. I used the term "crossroads" loosely, not in any strict, technical sense. I didn't even know the term was used in the science of geography.
 
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Okay, fine. I used the term "crossroads" loosely, not in any strict, technical sense. I didn't even know the term was used in the science of geography.

But that's the thing: the placement of Israel with regards to cartography has literally nothing to do with geography.
You're desire to say that Israel is the centre of the world is purely relative. As someone has shown, the centre of the world on a map is purely relative to the country that the map was produced in. A British map will have Britain in the centre. A Russian map will have Russia as the centre, and so on and so on.
You have given no single point of evidence apart from your reading of a map that Israel is the centre of the world.
 
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But that's the thing: the placement of Israel with regards to cartography has literally nothing to do with geography.
You're desire to say that Israel is the centre of the world is purely relative. As someone has shown, the centre of the world on a map is purely relative to the country that the map was produced in. A British map will have Britain in the centre. A Russian map will have Russia as the centre, and so on and so on.
You have given no single point of evidence apart from your reading of a map that Israel is the centre of the world.

I did not say Israel is the center of the world, I even began by saying "regardless of maps" to indicate I wasn't relying on cartography, and my point of evidence is the importance of the ideas of the people of Israel in human history.
 
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I did not say Israel is the center of the world, I even began by saying "regardless of maps" to indicate I wasn't relying on cartography, and my point of evidence is the importance of the ideas of the people of Israel in human history.

What does that have to do with geology though?
 
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It's true to say that Israel is at the crossroads of 3 religions. Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

True. But that has literally ZERO relevance to the Physical & Life Science fiction, since it's not a life science subject. I don't even know if CF has the correct forum for this topic to be in.
 
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True. But that has literally ZERO relevance to the Physical & Life Science fiction, since it's not a life science subject. I don't even know if CF has the correct forum for this topic to be in.
Correct, it should be in maybe philosophy, or one of the Christian only forums.
 
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But that's the thing: the placement of Israel with regards to cartography has literally nothing to do with geography.
You're desire to say that Israel is the centre of the world is purely relative. As someone has shown, the centre of the world on a map is purely relative to the country that the map was produced in. A British map will have Britain in the centre. A Russian map will have Russia as the centre, and so on and so on.
You have given no single point of evidence apart from your reading of a map that Israel is the centre of the world.

But we are on the zero degree meridian, so we really are the centre of the world.
 
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Which one's the meridian again? That's the one going from pole to pole, correct?

Correct. Don't tell me that Lisbon is on the Greenwich meridian as well. They don't count (because I say so).
 
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Note that in a projection like this, the Northern areas are a little skewed, but it is still pretty close.

Seems nothing short of a miracle, that Israel would be the center of the world in both Today's world and in some maps of Pangaea, even as drawn by secular sources.

This is what the earth actually looks like.
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Yeah right, that's what earth looks like to Zeus when he has too many Foster's and falls backwards off his throne.
No. That's actually what the earth looks like if you flatten it out. The North Pole is really the South Pole, Africa really is that big, Europe really is that small.
 
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No. That's actually what the earth looks like if you flatten it out. The North Pole is really the South Pole, Africa really is that big, Europe really is that small.

That is a Gall-Peters projection and while it is an equal area projection, it is not an accurate reflection of the Earth. You can't do an accurate reflection of the Earth on a rectangle. You can't 'flatten it out' and make it work without having something similar to the dymaxion projection I showed earlier... and it still has some issues. The Gall-Peters projection actually causes severe vertical distortion around the equator and severe horizontal distortion around the middle latitudes.

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