Evangelicals for Harris Support Candidate Who ‘Better Reflects Christian Values’

[A2SG]

One of the patients in an abortion dies by design. Without ANY restrictions. And you are cool with it. You fit very well with Walz and Harris in their abortion extremism. At least you consider yourself as 'other religion' and not Christian.

Funny, that's not what I remember saying. Wonder if there's a way to check and be sure of exactly what I did say.

-- A2SG, there must be some way....

 

[BCP1928]

Agreed - when did it become permissible to go against Scripture?

Where does it say we should impose that scripture by law on the non-Christians citizens of a secular state?

 

[Hammster]

Yes. There is no reason to involve a magistrate in tricky and dangerous medical situations, which late term abortions almost always are. In particular, late term abortions are restricted by law and medical ethics already. It is still against the law to destroy a potentially viable fetus in Minnesota.

It’s not.

 

[BCP1928]

It’s not.

From the bill:

Subd. 3.​

Viability.

It shall be unlawful to perform an abortion when the fetus is potentially viable unless:


(1) the abortion is performed in a hospital;

(2) the attending physician certifies in writing that in the physician's best medical judgment the abortion is necessary to preserve the life or health of the pregnant woman; and

(3) to the extent consistent with sound medical practice the abortion is performed under circumstances which will reasonably assure the live birth and survival of the fetus.

HF 91 as introduced - 93rd Legislature (2023 - 2024)

 

[Always in His Presence]

I don’t believe it has. And we aren’t talking about an in-house debate over things like baptism, tongues or Lord’s Supper.

I'm not - are you?

 

[Always in His Presence]

Where does it say we should impose that scripture by law on the non-Christians citizens of a secular state?

The thread is about Evangelical Christians

 

[Hammster]

From the bill:

Subd. 3.​

Viability.

It shall be unlawful to perform an abortion when the fetus is potentially viable unless:


(1) the abortion is performed in a hospital;

(2) the attending physician certifies in writing that in the physician's best medical judgment the abortion is necessary to preserve the life or health of the pregnant woman; and

(3) to the extent consistent with sound medical practice the abortion is performed under circumstances which will reasonably assure the live birth and survival of the fetus.

HF 91 as introduced - 93rd Legislature (2023 - 2024)

And how arbitrary is that?

 

[Hammster]

I'm not - are you?

No. My point is that this isn’t just a theology debate. This is something that all Christians should agree on.

 

[Danthemailman]

In my honest opinion, I see very, very little if any, values and morals supported by Harris and the progressive far left of the Democratic Party which represents Christian values BETTER THAN what I see from the values being supported by Donald Trump and the GOP. The pro-abortion values of the Democratic Party and the transgenderism agenda of the Democratic Party and the human trafficking which the democratic party has been constantly allowing because of massive illegal immigration are ALL, in my opinion, extremely un-Christian values.

Amen! I'm reminded of Isaiah 5:20 - Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

 

[KCfromNC]

Just curious - when did it become laudable to support things God abhors?

In the US? 1791 at the latest, given that's when the government ratified the 1st amendment which allowed people to have other gods before the Christian one.

 

[Hammster]

In the US? 1791 at the latest, given that's when the government ratified the 1st amendment which allowed people to have other gods before the Christian one.

The problem with that is that the government isn’t above God. So if it’s true, it’s an epic fail.

 

[Larniavc]

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This is my granddaughter. She’s one week old. She was born at 37 weeks. The Harris/Walz campaign, reflecting Christian values, would have had no problem with her execution this week if my daughter-in-law had chosen to abort.

Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.
— 1 Corinthians 10:31

What would the reason for the abortion at 37 weeks be?

 

[Hammster]

What would the reason for the abortion at 37 weeks be?

Personally I cannot contrive of the evil that would find it “necessary”.

 

[BCP1928]

The thread is about Evangelical Christians

In particular, whether Evangelical Christians are required to advocate for criminalizing Christians sins in a secular state.

 

[BCP1928]

Personally I cannot contrive of the evil that would find it “necessary”.

How about if the fetus was dead and the continued presence of the corpse in her womb posed a threat to the life of the mother?

 

[Larniavc]

It’s not.

I’m going to go out in a limb and guess that you are wrong in this instance.

 

[chevyontheriver]

How about if the fetus was dead and the continued presence of the corpse in her womb posed a threat to the life of the mother?

That wouldn’t be an abortion though, would it? A Catholic doctor at a Catholic hospital could do that and nobody would object.

 

[Larniavc]

Personally I cannot contrive of the evil that would find it “necessary”.

Then what reason would make it a legal late term abortion?

My obvious point is that you are claiming hysterical things happen when you freely admit that you cannot fathom why they ever would.

 

[Hammster]

In particular, whether Evangelical Christians are required to advocate for criminalizing Christians sins in a secular state.

You mean like murder, theft, perjury, etc?

 

[Hammster]

How about if the fetus was dead and the continued presence of the corpse in her womb posed a threat to the life of the mother?

Please don’t use asinine examples.