Euthanasia

[Talyn]

I've experience thoughts of suicide. But I thought of my family. I would never put them thru that pain. Like I said before, I view euthanasia in the same view. If you think that's an arrogant POV, then that is your opinion. I don't have to experience something in order for me to be entitled to comment.

 

[Electric Sceptic]

I've experience thoughts of suicide. But I thought of my family. I would never put them thru that pain. Like I said before, I view euthanasia in the same view. If you think that's an arrogant POV, then that is your opinion. I don't have to experience something in order for me to be entitled to comment.

You DO have to experience something in order for your comment to be of any worth. We are not talking about people who are depressed or out of sorts. We are talking about people who are in severe, unremitting agony with no hope of relief. When you've been there, your opinion will be worth something.

 

[Shannonkish]

As someone who has been in this position, with my mom, I would agree with ElectricSkeptic.

Prior to having to deal with my Mom's terminal illness, I was hardcore against euthanasia and suicide... however, when I saw my mom lying in SICU for over 3 weeks, with dry tears stuck to the sides of her face, a breathing tube in her throat, and seeing the painful look on her face... I realized that she wasn't being selfish wanting to die... I was being selfish by wanting to keep her alive.

Sure, it has been hell, the past 10 months without my mom... but there is joy knowing that she is no longer in pain... no longer suffering... no longer struggling to breathe, no longer is her body struggling to pump blood through her veins.

 

[elman]

They're going to die anyway. And no, I wouldn't want them to suffer, but I still think suicide and euthanasia is the cowards way out.

I wonder if you will change your mind on that by the time you are 89.

 

[Talyn]

I wonder if you will change your mind on that by the time you are 89.

I don't think so. I'm far too stubborn.

 

[Shannonkish]

I don't think so. I'm far too stubborn.

I personally don't find your comment funny, but rather lacking compassion and cold-hearted.

 

[Electric Sceptic]

I personally don't find your comment funny, but rather lacking compassion and cold-hearted.
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As do I.

 

[Katya]

I don't think the comment was funny either. I used to think like that. It's sad

 

[Talyn]

I personally don't find your comment funny, but rather lacking compassion and cold-hearted.
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Well it's my stance. I'm not changing it. And I won't apologize for it either. If you find it cold hearted, then so be it.

 

[Electric Sceptic]

Well it's my stance. I'm not changing it. And I won't apologize for it either. If you find it cold hearted, then so be it.

And we do. I particularly find such a cold-hearted, arrogant and selfish stance strange for a claimed christian.

 

[Shannonkish]

I can only hope that you are never put in a situation where you have to make such a decision for a family member.

 

[Talyn]

And if I was, I don't see how that will make me change my mind.

 

[Electric Sceptic]

And if I was, I don't see how that will make me change my mind.

That's why he said he hopes you're never in that situation. It would be awful if some poor suffering person had to deal with your arrogance and judgementalism as well as their own suffering.

 

[Exhausted]

On euthanasia- you're telling me that if you were in constant, mind-blowing pain, and were told that it would continue for years, that you wouldn't want your doctor to end it? Even if your family supported it?

And yea, sk8Joyful is what we in the biz like to call CRAZY. So ignore her, until she says something worth responding to.

 

[Talyn]

That's why he said he hopes you're never in that situation. It would be awful if some poor suffering person had to deal with your arrogance and judgementalism as well as their own suffering.

Thank you for those kind words. I admit, yes it is a little arrogant of me.

On euthanasia- you're telling me that if you were in constant, mind-blowing pain, and were told that it would continue for years, that you wouldn't want your doctor to end it? Even if your family supported it?

My family don't support euthanasia, but even if they did. I don't support it. It goes against what I believe. So I guess I'll just endure to the end.

 

[Shannonkish]

That's why he said he hopes you're never in that situation. It would be awful if some poor suffering person had to deal with your arrogance and judgementalism as well as their own suffering.

I am a She.

My family don't support euthanasia, but even if they did. I don't support it. It goes against what I believe. So I guess I'll just endure to the end.

So, basically, what you are saying is that you don't think for yourself? I say this because you made a point in telling us that your family doesn't believe in Euthanasia....

My family doesn't believe in a lot of things... but that doesn't prevent me from thinking for myself and believing in something I feel I can substantiate with some sort of proof, etc.

 

[Talyn]

There are alot of things that I agree and disagree with my family. That doesn't mean that everytime that I agree with them, I'm not thinking for myself. In the end, I'm the one who has to live with my decisions. It's just what I believe. Nothing more. I'm not exactly eloquent with words. And I know sometimes my opinions come off as being arrogant and cold hearted. But I know what I mean, and that's all that really matters. Is that I can live with myself.

 

[Cerberus~]

My family don't support euthanasia, but even if they did. I don't support it. It goes against what I believe. So I guess I'll just endure to the end.

If your mother or whoever was in the hospital with a disease, terminal, but not fatal until years from now. They lie in a hospital bed, and they ask you to let them die.

What do you do? Are you the kind of person who can watch a person writhe in agony and do nothing to end their misery?

 

[Talyn]

If your mother or whoever was in the hospital with a disease, terminal, but not fatal until years from now. They lie in a hospital bed, and they ask you to let them die.

What do you do? Are you the kind of person who can watch a person writhe in agony and do nothing to end their misery?

Depends on what you mean by let them die. If they were asking they be taken off medication and come home to live the rest of their life in peace, then I would do that, but to me that is not euthanasia. Pumping someone full of drugs is what I object too. Or suffocating them with a pillow. Though I've never heard anyone do that. I akin that to suicide.

 

[Cerberus~]

I'm talking about an instance where if you take them off meds and unhook them, they'll be dead in within 24 hours.