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Eternity?
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Penumbra
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In my experience, debating evolution vs creationism is a waste of time. I have no interest in it.
This thread was first about eternity, and then we got into what happens at death, and now this is about the past. I'll discuss the first two concepts here, but not the third.
Do you believe that every biological lifeform that has ever existed has its thoughts, feelings, and memories existing somewhere?
-Lyn
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Google what does the bible say about heaven or something along the lines of that. They have a more complete list of scripture than i can think of.
IMO, the body is just the vehicle your soul uses to navigate on the earth. When you die your soul gets carried up towards the heavens, yes like flying, because angels fly in heaven. If you are sentenced to Hell you sink beneath the earth to the lake of fire. Guess we'll all find out the details the minute after we die.
IMO, the body is just the vehicle your soul uses to navigate on the earth. When you die your soul gets carried up towards the heavens, yes like flying, because angels fly in heaven. If you are sentenced to Hell you sink beneath the earth to the lake of fire. Guess we'll all find out the details the minute after we die.
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"Do you believe that every biological lifeform that has ever existed has its thoughts, feelings, and memories existing somewhere?"
No, not animals. God breathed life into man and man became a living soul. He didn't do this to cats, elephants, giraffes and so on.
No, not animals. God breathed life into man and man became a living soul. He didn't do this to cats, elephants, giraffes and so on.
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The burden of proof is on you. You just cant expect me to take a statement like that on face value.
That sounds completely rational. You missed my main question. What sort of things would you do or think about?
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Penumbra
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Now you're saying that it has to do with life being breathed in.
Before you were saying that the fact that it's a biological machine makes all the difference, when now it really doesn't seem to matter because according to you, any non-human biological machine simply dies and the thoughts cease to exist.
Can you define soul? What does the soul have in common with us?
Does it contain our personality? Thoughts? Memories? Or no?
-Lyn
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Penumbra
Yes the human soul was created when God breathed life into it.
I don't know how much research you have done about Christianity but it has not been extensive to say the least.
And no i can't define soul. I can't even think a good definition for a car.
And, yes, yes, yes
SUM,
ok read Revelation
Yes the human soul was created when God breathed life into it.
I don't know how much research you have done about Christianity but it has not been extensive to say the least.
And no i can't define soul. I can't even think a good definition for a car.
And, yes, yes, yes
SUM,
ok read Revelation
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Penumbra
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That's ok if you can't define a soul. I mean, if you believe in it but don't know what it is, it might be a good idea to dwell on that a bit, but based on your age identifier, you've got plenty of time.
If a soul contains our personality and memories, then why can our personality and memories be changed based on damage to our brain?
Can you point to where my "research" has not been extensive?
-Lyn
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Had it been extensive you would not be asking the questions you are now. Or maybe you know and are just trying to find fault in my definitions. idk but this is off topic
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Penumbra
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I'm asking the questions to you, not to Christianity. I'm looking for your answers. I'm discussing this with you to work through definitions, see how you think, and offer my own views. That's what a discussion is about.
Various Christian thinkers have written a lot about the soul and the afterlife and all that. Various Christian denominations have plenty of doctrines about things. When I'm interested in what they have to say, I consult the library, not an internet forum. When I'm interested in what other people have to say, I consult them personally. Christianity contains 2 billion people and is 2000 years old, and so contains a lot of diverging opinions on the soul and the afterlife.
-Lyn
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So you can’t back up your statement. Okay I’ll move on, once again what sort of things would you do in this vague description of heaven you've given me?
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How would you describe heaven?
Wouldnt you eventually get tired of singing, dancing, and praying? Think about what your saying this is forever. Wouldnt you run out of songs to sing or dances to dance or prayers to pray and why pray at all youve already got into heaven right?
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You still believe that your afterlife will be an eternity regardless of how we perceive time correct?
What do you think youll be doing for eternity?
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In heaven? uh Idk uhhh videogames, tv, minigolf, laser tag, rock climbing, bowling, basketball, talking to God face to face....you name it.
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You understand that unless you have an infinite list, you'll run out of things to do, right?
Well, unless cocaine is on that list.
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By that logic.....since you have nowhere near infinite number of things to do in your house....you stopped having things to do after the first day you moved in? Because you can only do something one time?
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Remember you have an eternity…
Don’t you think you would get bored with videogames that is you would become so good at them that they would no longer be challenging? Who would make these videogames of yours or do you show up there with them?
What sort of television programs will you watch and who will fix your T.V. when it breaks? Are there laborers in this place to do this job?
Who are playing laser tag with and who made the guns? Are there factories there? Do janitors, line workers, maintenance guys, safety guys, mangers…work in these factories. Do they have labor laws are they treated well?
Won’t you run out of rocks to climb?
Who will clean your bowling alleys and basketball courts?
What would say to your god?
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