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Eskimo Eradication: Why is the U.S aiding the destruction/starvation of the Inuit?

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I was writing on this due to how it seems that there has been little to no coverage by U.S media outlets on an issue that our nation is helping to cause up North - specially as it concerns the food security to the Inuits (also called Eskimos, associated with Igloos) and the ways we're helping to kill them off. I had to do report on it for another organization I'm with - but I was wanting to see what others had to say on the matter here...as it's a big deal. Oprah Winfrey did a show on the issue some time back - and it was amazing to see how many were surprised at the struggles going on for families/parents in the Eskimo situation.

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Artic Food Networks are very diverse and delicate systems. Many are unaware of the fact that things such as shrinking of ice (due to global warming/gas house emissions - of which U.S electrical companies play a big part) and the industrialization of civilization near Inuit communities - known to often be isolated and sustainable due to the aspect of low contact with industrialization - have caused severe damages in their food supply. Additionally, some Inuit believe climate change could bring about a "cultural genocide" as their hunting way of life melts with the sea ice...and with even plant supplies being a concern since many rely on them.


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As a result, many are starving - with the markets they go to for food having products be placed at such high rates that they are no affordable ...as it costs more to get food to the North and the prices are far higher than they are in the South. This is in addition to things such as Inupiat Eskimo villages eroding into the sea


Many have turned to protesting in order to get recognition of their struggle. In example, there have been many legal battles occuring over the use of water supplies and getting the U.S government to respect the right of Natives in their land. Also, years ago, Earthjustice attorneys and the Center for International Environmental Law (CIEL), working with the Inuit Circumpolar Conference submitted a petition to the Washington DC-based Inter-American Commission on Human Rights seeking relief from violations of the Inuit's human rights resulting from global warming caused by greenhouse gas emissions from the United States. The Commission, which was created in 1959 by the Organization of American States, has a long and distinguished history of protecting human rights, particularly those of indigenous peoples. For the United States makes up only five percent of the world's population, but emits one-quarter of global greenhouse pollution...and the petition called on the United States to respect its human rights obligations and take effective action to immediately reduce its contribution to the Inuit's injuries (more shared here)...with many noting the wisdom found in the ways of life (including diet) that the Inuit hold strongly to.

And in addition to protesting so that others are aware of their plight, many are utilizing the idea of community gardens/community farms to form a niche for others where food is accessible. As said best elsewhere (for brief excerpt):
IN THE LAST DECADE or SO, some North Americans have begun to alter dramatically their relationship to the food they eat and those that produce it. Spurred in part by Michael Pollan's The Omnivore's Dilemma, a wildly popular defence of local and "do it yourself" forms of food production, or Alisa Smith and J.B. Mackinnon's The 100-Mile Diet, many so-called locavores have joined Community Supported Agriculture (CSA(1), developed community gardening projects, or packed local farmers' markets on Saturday mornings. The motivations that propel the embryonic local food movement are various, for some likely not much more complicated than their desire for extra-fresh rapini. For others, however, the heart of the local food movement lies with resistance to the idea that food is primarily a corporate commodity. Instead, the production and consumption of food represents an affirmation of the bond between farmer and eater, one of the profound building blocks upon which we build human communities and more sensitive relationships to the natural world.
For those who are Inuits, being able to stay connected to the land and having the ability to be included in the markets are of high importance. And it is a blessing to be able to achieve those goals via agriculture/community gardening. Even as it concerns health issues such as type 2 diabetes (a result of lack in food security), First Nations and Inuit communities are encouraged to develop innovative, culturally relevant approaches aimed at increasing community wellness so that certain things will be less of a burden. In specific, community activities funded through the ADI (the Aboriginal Diabetes Initiative ) vary from one community to another, and may include community gardens - as well as walking clubs, weight-loss groups, diabetes workshops, fitness classes, community kitchens and healthy school food policies.

Nonetheless, there is still a gross lack of help occurring for those Eskimo communities that have been harmed by the damage that we in the U.S have been doing to their environment. This has already occurred historically when it came to the U.S simply choosing to Relocat Northwest Alaska Eskimos, from 1907-1917....damaging their environment and forcing them to adapt to what those for expansion wanted..even though in Alaska, white settlement denied some natives their choice of seasonal camps, mining fouled some fish habitat, and newcomers competed with natives for fish and game (although the taking of game and fish and the gathering of roots and berries still provided many of the essentials for Alaskan Eskimo, Aleut, and Indian people..and the same with reindeer hunting).

Sadly, it seems the same is STILL occurring. ..even though some may advocate that adapting via modernization is something that could aid the Eskimo Population (more shared in Alaskan Eskimo Education). If anyone has heard on this issue, what are you thoughts? How should the U.S best go about helping others out on the situation - and why is it not being discussed?
 
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I was writing on this due to how it seems that there has been little to no coverage by U.S media outlets on an issue that our nation is helping to cause up North - specially as it concerns the food security
The Native Alaskans get a LOT of help from the Government. There is a LOT of money in Alaska from Oil & Fish. It is assumed that Native Alaskans have some rights to some of that money. They get a lot of benefits. They can apply for food stamps, medical treatments, telephone, education for their kids and so on. When they have to relocate a village from Global warming, the Government paid all of the cost of the relocation.
 
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There are still quite a few Eskimos left; behold:


Many of my ancestors were Eastern Woodlands Indians. They lived by hunting, fishing and rudimentary agriculture. Times changed, and they didn't; so they largely died out. Mine intermarried with whites and became like them. The result is me. I'm quite fond of the result, and can't complain.

If I were an Eskimo and REALLY believed in global warming, I would get into real estate and start selling beachfront vacation property next to glaciers. If the Polar Ice Cap melts, the area will be crawling with oil tankers, repair & supply stops, etc., and foreigners from eveywhere eating local tropical fish.
 
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So, what are we supposed to do about it? Sorry, I have Aspergers and got lost in your very long first post with all the links and videos
Sincerely, one can go back and read the first paragraph (as one was never bound to check out every link and it they'd not need to do so in order to read one or two paragraphs). For there was more than enough there (and I have friends/family with learning disabilities as well ..BUT it is not an issue to read through slowly) - and to be clear, there were 2 videos. One of them can be gone through if interested in the discussion.

Those who want to find out on how the Eskimos are being harmed can even google it on their own to see what the issues are. I outlined earlier some things to consider when it comes to addressing the food market issues - in addition to proving ways of meeting the food needs of the Eskimo diets since the new ones they've had to adapt to have harmed the population and introduced a new world of diseases they didn't have to face before. If others have differing solutions - outside of sustainable development and more serious addressment of the way industrialization in the Artic North is pushing into territories it needs to stay out of so that the Eskimos and the world at large are not harmed - this thread is here for them to share on such.
I am not meaning anything bad but just couldnt look through it all.
Neither am I meaning anything bad in response - as I was trained that if one feels something is too much to go through, it's best to keep it to themselves/not go through with it - or go through what they can and comment on that.
 
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There are still quite a few Eskimos left; behold:



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No one said that there are not a lot of Eskimos left (even though I enjoyed the video :) ) as what was mentioned was that their culture/way of life is being destroyed - one reason due to global warming and the violations of their space for hunting/living being trespassed...and another being that the food supplies up North are vastly overpriced.

Many of my ancestors were Eastern Woodlands Indians.
Cool to know. Mine were Black Foot Indians :)
They lived by hunting, fishing and rudimentary agriculture. Times changed, and they didn't; so they largely died out. Mine intermarried with whites and became like them. The result is me. I'm quite fond of the result, and can't complain.
Can't complain on the results if you are one of them - although the larger issue is should they have had to get to that point? For many even with adaptation did not survive - and others who did so, they still talk on the ways further cultural destruction and land destruction occur...with it being the case that adaptation cannot continue forever nor should it have to go down when there are other ways.

My ancestors intermarried with other groups - yet they never forgot their heritage nor the need to tell others to keep fighting so that there'd be continual forcing of others into hard places ...and destruction overall.

If I were an Eskimo and REALLY believed in global warming, I would get into real estate and start selling beachfront vacation property next to glaciers. If the Polar Ice Cap melts, the area will be crawling with oil tankers, repair & supply stops, etc., and foreigners from eveywhere eating local tropical fish
There are not really stellar beaches near the Polar Ice Caps - nor tropical fish in those areas due to the temperatures. And for them, I see why they continue to fight knowing that they don't have to change when they have already done so enough.
 
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To break the Innuit stranglehold on strategic ice reserves, obviously...
Not really certain as to what exactly you mean here. Are you saying the Inuits are at fault or are you saying that the U.S is saying nothing due to how they want the Inuit out of the way so they can get ahold of the land?
 
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Gxg (G²);62856610 said:
Not really certain as to what exactly you mean here. Are you saying the Inuits are at fault or are you saying that the U.S is saying nothing due to how they want the Inuit out of the way so they can get ahold of the land?

It was, essentially, a joke. But whatever happens, we can be sure the US y and large consider themselves the wronged party, and thats not a joke
 
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Gxg (G²);62856501 said:
No one said that there are not a lot of Eskimos left (even though I enjoyed the video :) ) as what was mentioned was that their culture/way of life is being destroyed - one reason due to global warming and the violations of their space for hunting/living being trespassed...and another being that the food supplies up North are vastly overpriced.

Cool to know. Mine were Black Foot Indians :)
Can't complain on the results if you are one of them - although the larger issue is should they have had to get to that point? For many even with adaptation did not survive - and others who did so, they still talk on the ways further cultural destruction and land destruction occur...with it being the case that adaptation cannot continue forever nor should it have to go down when there are other ways.

My ancestors intermarried with other groups - yet they never forgot their heritage nor the need to tell others to keep fighting so that there'd be continual forcing of others into hard places ...and destruction overall.

There are not really stellar beaches near the Polar Ice Caps - nor tropical fish in those areas due to the temperatures. And for them, I see why they continue to fight knowing that they don't have to change when they have already done so enough.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video.

I don't know how you identify with the Blackfeet. Do you go to pow-wows? I knew a good brother in Christ, Richard Twiss, who was native Sioux and had taken part in the AIM occupation of the BIA in 1972. After giving his life to Christ, he led a group called Wiconi International, taking part in cultural events as far away as Tibet. He went to be with the Lord earlier this year.

I never have been able to ascertain what tribe I come from. I know I am 7% Native American, and I know my NA ancestry, from several lines, all came through Oneida County, NY. Some of it may have been Mohawk or Abnaki from VT; some may have been Brothertown from SE NY; some may have been Brothertown, Stockbridge or Oneida. It is all on female lines; but cross-line (F-F-M-F, etc.), so that even if I could trace the exact line, I could not enroll in those matriarchal tribes. I don't worship the Indian spirits, can't hunt or fish worth a hoot, and am a terrible runner; so I'm thoroughly a white guy. My daughter married a Chinaman, though; and when I see my Eurasian grandchildren, I imagine what it was like for some of my ancestors.

The Eskimo will certainly lose their culture eventually, one way or another. If you look at things objectively, even we whites have lost our culture. We do not live as our ancestors did; and judging by the comments on CF, not many even remember their religious and cultural heritage. If my New England ancestors, such as Elder William Brewster, were to see what has become of this country, they would be glad they're in the grave and don't have to witness it. Also, my ancestors were among the first settlers of Albany, Kingston, Manhattan and Brooklyn, NY. Do they collect any rents? No. Is their Dutch language spoken anywhere? No. They're forgotten, and have been replaced by Blacks, Puerto Ricans, Italians, Irishmen and Jews.

I hope the video survives, though. It's one of my favorites.
 
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violations of their space for hunting/living
There is no violation of their space. There isn't even any roads to get to their space to violate it. Either you got to hire a bush plane, use a dog sled or use a snowmobile to even get to their village. Alaska is a very large state and there are very few people that live in the very few cities that are up there. They have enough people to get the job done and that is about it. If the natives have a problem then it is with drinking. Otherwise there is plenty of work that pays good. Or they can just hunt and fish if that is what they want to do. Maybe your impression comes from the people that have gotten thrown out of their village for being trouble makers.
 
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Am I going to be the only one to throw out the idea that perhaps people shouldn't be surprised when a frozen wasteland is a fragile environment to base your civilization on?
Even though their culture has been in place around the arctic circle since CE 1000? Do a little research. You can begin here.
 
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There is no violation of their space..
Wrong - and speaking past that as if nothing has been done, no protest have occurred and no destruction of the environment happened is speaking past the issue. Simple as that and there is no need to make up facts on the issue.
There isn't even any roads to get to their space to violate it. Either you got to hire a bush plane, use a dog sled or use a snowmobile to even get to their village.
Has nothing to do with the issue of destroying their environment, over-fishing in the areas designated specifically for them and industrialization occurring. Again, they've already spoken up enough on the matter.

Alaska is a very large state and there are very few people that live in the very few cities that are up there. They have enough people to get the job done and that is about it. If the natives have a problem then it is with drinking. Otherwise there is plenty of work that pays good. Or they can just hunt and fish if that is what they want to do. Maybe your impression comes from the people that have gotten thrown out of their village for being trouble makers

As it is, the OP was never talking SOLELY about Alaska anyhow when it came to the Inuits/Eskimos being impacted by industrialization.

Truthfully, it's racially insensitive trying to deem all who either protest or work on the land as "trouble-makers" - in the same way Native Americans were labeled as such when it came to the continual removal of them from their land...and Relocation/changing terms. And generally, I've seen it where those saying or assuming such are not truly aware of what happens in their world and instead go off stereotypes....especially as it concerns the drinking issue. One of the primary reasons for the drinking issue - as well as high suicide rates - is due to the fact that there is depression over their cultural destruction....and a lack of jobs which often happen for the Native American individuals whose skill-set is not in those areas (more at Alcohol Problems in Alaska Natives - University of Colorado ) with others who actually have done work with Native Americans, it's no small issue....nor can it be written off by anyone not really dealing with it.

This really isn't new. Historically, there have been many groups that noted plainly that the government others championed couldn't care less about their interests whenever they asked for assistance or change. Native Americans have brought this up quite often (and one of the reasons why they're very distrustful), seeing the many times government programs were set up to harm them and then they were told that the government was simply trying to help---and yet the help they wanted to recieve was non-existent. Of course, many are for the mindset that Native Americans live for free since they hear of the ways governments give them resources...but that's a myth. Nonetheless, historically, many times programs were set up by the government that caused certain groups damage.





In social work, we call them the "Invisible Minority"---and for good reason, in light of how often they're not even brought up in discussion. Even after many took the island of Alchatraz hostage during the Red Power movement.

In 1862, the American government refused to honor treaty obligations to the Dakota Sioux Indians during a time of widespread starvation. When tribal leaders, desperate for relief, asked for food on credit because the U.S. government had failed to provide moneys owed, an associate of the local Indian agent replied, “If they are hungry, let them eat grass or their own dung.” His comment, and the crass disregard it represented, helped to spark the infamous and bloody confrontation between the tribe and the federal government now known as the Dakota War. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, these Americans earn a median annual income of $33,627. One in every four (25.3 percent) lives in poverty and nearly a third (29.9 percent) are without health insurance coverage. Essentially, counties on Native American reservations are among the poorest in the country and, according to the Economic Research Service at the U.S. Department of Agriculture, nearly 60 percent of all Native Americans who live outside of metropolitan areas inhabit persistently poor counties.

America's indigenous populations have struggled for recognition. Most of the world's nations have been reluctant to take positive steps to support the rights of indigenous peoples. The United Nations Permanent Forum on Indigenous Peoples set a goal early this century for adoption of the Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples. In 2007, 143 countries finally adopted the declaration. The United States – the wealthiest country in the world – was not one of them. The Government Accountability Office (GAO) has leveled a number of criticisms at the agencies responsible for federal Native American policy, including "long-standing financial and programmatic deficiencies" in the Interior Department's American Indian programs. A 2006 GAO report also found that the Office of the Special Trustee for American Indians has failed to implement several key initiatives specified by the American Indian Trust Fund Management Reform Act of 1994, including establishing an actual timetable for completing its mission. Congress failed to reauthorize the Indian Health Care Improvement Act since 1992.

Initially passed in 1976, the Indian Health Care Improvement Act was designed to bring the waning health of Native American communities up to the standard enjoyed by all Americans...and Health systems in many Native American communities are in serious need of updating and improvement. Nixon's presidency was one of the few that seemed to take serious Native issues/represent them properly..but often, representation/justice has been denied. There are other groups who've experienced similar to them throughout history....and sadly, they're often left out of the picture.
 
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So, what are we supposed to do about it? Sorry, I have Aspergers and got lost in your very long first post with all the links and videos. I am not meaning anything bad but just couldnt look through it all.

Don't feel bad, I skimmed through a part of it and ended up wondering just what the original post was trying to say.

An opening post as long as that, interspersed with multiple videos, and with a signature that takes up an entire screen leaving me wondering what the signature has to do with the post just because I missed a narrow line, has me dumping the entire post into the "too long, didn't read" pile.
 
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Don't feel bad, I skimmed through a part of it and ended up wondering just what the original post was trying to say.

An opening post as long as that, interspersed with multiple videos, and with a signature that takes up an entire screen leaving me wondering what the signature has to do with the post just because I missed a narrow line, has me dumping the entire post into the "too long, didn't read" pile.
Like I said - if you don't know what to say or really have nothing to say at all on the issue, it is best to keep it to yourself since it is distraction from the OP. ...and rude, no different than someone coming onto a thread about music, thinking it's too little coverage or too much , and only able to say "I DON'T LIKE THIS!!" even when others already took time to address it. One can save that for elsewhere if respectful.
 
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Gxg (G²);62858586 said:
Like I said - if you don't know what to say or really have nothing to say at all on the issue, it is best to keep it to yourself since it is distraction from the OP. ...and rude, no different than someone coming onto a thread about music, thinking it's too little coverage or too much , and only able to say "I DON'T LIKE THIS!!" even when others already took time to address it. One can save that for elsewhere if respectful.

I always thought commenting that a post was so long whatever point it was trying to make was lost might be construed as an invitation to make the point in a more concise manner.

If you're trying to make a point but the point is lost among a wall of words and videos I'd have thought you'd be interested to know that at least some people aren't seeing whatever point it is you want to make. As you said, anyone can Google things but frankly your opening post didn't inspire enough interest to make me want to find out more.

Whether you do anything with that or not is up to you. Calling me rude doesn't really help though, does it?
 
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