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https://reasonsforhopejesus.com/blood-curse-jeconiah/You are making God a liar when you say Jeconiah is a non issue. Because God never contradicts his word. If he does, let's ditch our bibles now.
No, Acts 2:30-33 is not saying David's throne is at the right hand of God in heaven.The fact is, Jesus is both Priest and King according to Hebrews. But being from Judah, he cannot be a priest in Jerusalem, that is Levite territory. But he is both Priest and King in heavenly Jerusalem above according to Acts 2:30-33 where Peter says Jesus' resurrection placed him on David's throne, at the right hand of God.
This is not a complete representation of what Peter said. Please consider ALL that he said.No, Acts 2:30-33 is not saying David's throne is at the right hand of God in heaven.
Here's what the verse says..
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
Jesus has been raise up, in spite of being rejected by that generation of Jerusalem and the Jews to be their king, to sit on David's throne by putting Him to death - when He returns to earth and fulfills Ezekiel 37.
When Jesus ascended to heaven, He sits in the midst of God's Throne - not David's throne, which is here on earth. As David has never ruled from heaven.
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Jerusalem will not see Jesus again - until they say, blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord - welcoming Him as their King, Lord, and Savior.
Jesus was a descendant of Jeconiah through Shealtiel and Zerubbabel (legally through Joseph Matthew 1:12 or genetically through Mary Luke 3:27).
Your entire end time theory rests on a Pre-trib Rapture you cannot support from scripture. If LaHaye and Walvoord cannot do it, and admit this, as I've already provided quotes from their own writings, certainly you cannot produce the needed support to make it Biblical.This is evidence that you really have no clue and no understanding at all of this matter - I don't have time at this moment to show your folly , but this is ridiculous - you have no idea of what this is all about - elementary simple- IF God did not want people to be part of a physical kingdom he would not have created a physical earth , he would not be saying that he will create a new earth that IS physical for HIS Family to live on , a kingdom that cannot be seen ? Ridiculous !
The 1000 years has been explained again and again but you cannot absorbed that which you do not understand , you choose to be spiritually blinded - The glorified body IS a Physical body Like Jesus has after he rose from the grave , He asked Thomas to put his hand in his side to feel the wounds - In the future people will ask Jesus where did he get the wounds in his body , as they SEE those wounds !
there will be animals in the new earth , guess you think they are ghosts too eh ?
People that are born again are part if the family of God that will have physical bodies that never die , but can eat food , you'll likely come up with some type of ghostly food as well
Before we go on to the rapture , you need to address what a spiritual world looks like , how does a glorified touchable body navigate a world it cannot see
Dave, are you saying the resurrection/rapture cannot possibly happen before the 70th week begins?Your entire end time theory rests on a Pre-trib Rapture you cannot support from scripture. If LaHaye and Walvoord cannot do it, and admit this, as I've already provided quotes from their own writings, certainly you cannot produce the needed support to make it Biblical.
If you believe the 70 weeks are consecutive, as written, the rapture happens just as Paul said. After the resurrection of the believers in Christ on earth's last day.Dave, are you saying the resurrection/rapture cannot possibly happen before the 70th week begins?
It happens at the end of the world on the last day.Dave, are you saying the resurrection/rapture cannot possibly happen before the 70th week begins?
This is the typical nonsense that comes from people that have no real understanding of the Holy bible , you make claims that make no sense and when asked to prove it with scripture you have a single verse that still does not apply , FACT is that even if there was no rapture at all everything I have said is 100% factual and provable without a rapture , because most of it is not associated with a rapture , you have failed miserably at every aspect of your thread , and the only reason you want to focus on the rapture is to drift away from all the fallacies that you have statedYour entire end time theory rests on a Pre-trib Rapture you cannot support from scripture. If LaHaye and Walvoord cannot do it, and admit this, as I've already provided quotes from their own writings, certainly you cannot produce the needed support to make it Biblical.
"sleeping" in christ means that a person has died and their soul has gone to be with the Lord. The body is what "sleeps". The soul is alive, and never dies.
When the resurrection/rapture of 1Thessalonians4:15-18 and 1Thessalonians5:9-11 takes place, the souls of past Christians accompany Jesus to that glorious event and will be reunited with their resurrected bodies; and the living translated, both changed to their eternal incorruptible bodies - and go with Jesus to heaven, to always be with the Lord. As the great tribulation takes place here on earth.
At the end of the great tribulation, they will return to this earth with Jesus to reign and rule upon the earth with Him, serving Jesus.
Jerusalem will not see Jesus again - until they say, blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord - welcoming Him as their King, Lord, and
Yes you have it backwards brother, you think the Saints in Rev. 7:9 are people that died during the 70th week, and that is just not true. The Repented Jews Flee Judea at the 1290, or 30 days before the 1260. If you notice they are SEALED before God brings the Trumpet Wrath via hurting the Sea, Earth and the Trees. Thus they flee before the Anti-Christ Conquers Jerusalem, but they are SEALED just before the Trumpet Judgments start, if you do not believe me go look to see what the Trumpet Judgments do !! They kill 1/3 of Sea Creatures, and turn 1/3 of the Sea into blood. They burn 1/3 of the Trees up and they bring Plagues upon all the Earth.No, I don't have it backwards. The 144,000 are sealed before the great tribulation begins. Once the great tribulation begins, the great multitude are them who die during the great tribulation.
If the great multitude were the resurrected/raptured saints - prior to the great tribulation beginning - they would be seen (having been raptured) before the 144,000 are sealed. The purpose of sealing the 144,000 is that they are about to enter the great tribulation - which the great multitude will die during it.
Well, we've been through this before. The 360 days is not the issue. It is not a problem. 2520 days total, right? I know you agree with that.
If you didn't have the timing of two witnesses off - you could see why the timeframes are expressed differently and consistent with each other to be either in the first half or second half.
blue is in the first half - exactly the first half in days
sea green is in the second half - but not exactly 1260 day equivalent
red is the reason why - it doesn't say 1260 days in Rev 12:14 and 13:5.
everything in each line totals to 2520 days - seven years
The seven years
1260 days Rev 12:6 + time for the war in heaven Rev 12:7-9 + the time, times, half time Rev 12:14.
The seven years
1260 days Rev 11:3 + 3.5 days Rev 11:9 + 1256.5 days (42 months Revelation 13:5)
When Jesus said that - he implied it to be a reference to him, His Return. The Jews, if by custom say it every year - they are not saying it in regards to embracing Jesus.‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord’ is from psalm 118. This is a part of the Halel that is recited every year especially during Passover, Pentecost, and tabernacles. The Jews continued to recite this even after jesus gave this prophecy, so I don’t believe your interpretation is correct, otherwise, Jesus would have returned the next time the Jews recited this at the next big festival.
If you believe the 70 weeks are consecutive, as written, the rapture happens just as Paul said. After the resurrection of the believers in Christ on earth's last day.
“For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a shout of command, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be suddenly caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord. Therefore encourage one another with these words.” (1 Thessalonians 4:16–18)
There is no gap in the 70 weeks. If there was they wouldn't be 70 weeks but 1,000,070 weeks or much more.
Thanks for your response. It is helpful to know your position.t happens at the end of the world on the last day.
The 'Christendom' that you know is almost wholly deceived by the rapture theory. The Church that I belong to does not promote a rapture to heaven.
You are making a very big assumption of what Christians believe. Go to places that have been or are now persecuting Christians and try to teach 'rapture'. They will laugh at you.
I made no mistake, just because you are on the wrong end of my understandings, you seem to be on the wrong end of all the correct positions. If you want to restate what you were pointing towards I am sure I can set your mind at easy by explaining my understanding in a more voluminous manner, though I have trepidation's you will get it in the end.I pointed out a serious mistake of yours. You don't make any attempt to correct yourself.
Its your job to learn these things, you are a grown up Christian, yet you are still on the milk. Wean yourself brother. But then again you can't, because already know all the facts. I do not particularly like wasting my time and thus repeating the same thing to people over and over so usually once I have had a session or 2 with someone I am finished with what I have to say. Jesus told his disciples to wipe the dust off their feet and move on, so I don't just keep on keeping on, I just stay away from those types if they already know it all usually.If you actually quoted scripture to prove your case, I would believe it. But you don't have any and you seem unable to say why the Lord would remove the last generation, when all before it have faced trials and sometimes terrible testing of their faith.
Another example of the arrogance and sheer foolish ignorance of one deceived by the rapture theory.
RT, I will try to interpret what you wrote....Rapture of the Church, Church Age Ends.................Two- witnesses (2-W) show up at he 1335 which is 1185 days into the 70th Week or 75 days before the Beast Conquers Jerusalem in the Middle of the Week (AoD)..........1290 = the Abomination of Desolation this happens 1230 days into the 70th week, then the................ (MoW) 1260 = the Middle of the week where the Beast Conquers Jerusalem, it also just so happens to be 1260 days into the 70th Week and of course there will be 1260 days left for the Beast to rule Jerusalem !!
So we get this Below on a 7 Year Time-line:
Rapture..............2W at the 1335.....AoD at the 1290.....MoW at the 1260 The Jews are Scattered
Its your job to learn these things, you are a grown up Christian, yet you are still on the milk. Wean yourself brother.
What is your explanation for it?And you have no explanation of why it says 42 months in one verse 11:2 and the very next verse 1260 days in 11:3. Nor why it says 42 months in 13:5. And a time, times, half times in 12:14.
Independent of bible prophecyWhat is your explanation for it?
42 x 30 = 1260
time = 1 year times = 2 year half a time = 1/2 a year
where did you explain this ?Independent of bible prophecy
42 months x 30 days/month = 1260 days
a time, times, half time = 3 1/2 years
In bible prophecy, however, conversion does not apply because the timeframes are stated different for a reason(s). It is up to the reader the understand why. I have explained why.
Because of the different time expressions, the timeline of events can be put together and known - only in the one way that they can fit together.
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