Erwin Posted. Please read!

[Tangeloper]

I can't take this suspense! I hope nothing to radical happens I'm just starting to make friends here..

Yep, I'm a newbie here too, and all of this stuff has made it pretty hard to understand what the protocols are! LOL Anyway, I hope that whatever Erwin decides -- and yep, it is Erwin's site so we must respect that part -- it will at least serve to end the confusion once and for all. No matter what the decision is I hope it DOESN'T lead to even more flux in the rules! LOL Like Jim said -- we don't need 500 more WIKI discussions!!!

 

[ReformedChapin]

Yep, I'm a newbie here too, and all of this stuff has made it pretty hard to understand what the protocols are! LOL Anyway, I hope that whatever Erwin decides -- and yep, it is Erwin's site so we must respect that part -- it will at least serve to end the confusion once and for all. No matter what the decision is I hope it DOESN'T lead to even more flux in the rules! LOL Like Jim said -- we don't need 500 more WIKI discussions!!!

Imagine how I feel.

 

[No Swansong]

Well, to be fair to Erwin...it IS his site.

I think he felt some changes were in order and went with the thing that sounded closest to his original vision for CF.

It's awfully hard to please everyone. At the same time however, instead of uniting us...he ended up dividing us even more than we were...although unknowingly or without intending to. That's the thing about people...you never know how they're gonna respond.

Respectfully my friend do you honestly think it was unintentional?

I don't think so.

 

[No Swansong]

To be fair the only thing I have noticed consistent about Erwin has been his inconsistency.

As for his "original vision" of CF. If this is closer then he certainly didn't communicate his vision well when the board was originated. (can anyone remember Murron?)

 

[Lisa0315]

Respectfully my friend do you honestly think it was unintentional?

I don't think so.

I think the underlying cause of the original announcement was to reveal the true natures of some. I think Erwin knew that it would bring out the very best and the very worst in people. But, then, maybe, I am giving him too much credit...

Lisa

 

[Sothron]

I just hope we go back to pre 7/7/7 with the only real change of having open reports and mod actions so there is no funny business going on that happened in the past.

 

[Letalis]

I just hope we go back to pre 7/7/7 with the only real change of having open reports and mod actions so there is no funny business going on that happened in the past.

There was no funny business. In fact, I don't see that reports are done much different than they were before; the only difference being that members can give input.

Unfortunately the secrecy of the old system bred distrust among the members, but that's not to say that there was any impropriety.

 

[ReformedChapin]

Erwin has honestly driven this side far away from Christianity as possible. I honestly don't understand how his goal is to "unite all christains under one body" when anyone can call themselves a christian. I guess that's the problem with his definition of ecumenicalism.

 

[Rochir]

I honestly don't understand how his goal is to "unite all christains under one body" when anyone can call themselves a christian.

I have only seen people calling themselves Christian here who believe in Him and His love Jesus taught us!

 

[No Swansong]

There was no funny business. In fact, I don't see that reports are done much different than they were before; the only difference being that members can give input.

Unfortunately the secrecy of the old system bred distrust among the members, but that's not to say that there was any impropriety.

I agree.

As a mod/Sup I worked literally hundreds of reports and there was never any collusion or inappropriate behavior in any of the reports I was a part of.

Were there staff that abused their authority? Maybe, if so I never encountered them or I would have reported them and asked for their removal. Contrary to popular belief if there was any back room conspiracy's they were few and far between. So few and far between that I never witnessed or was privy to them.

 

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

Respectfully my friend do you honestly think it was unintentional?

I don't think so.

Well, I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt. What purpose would he have in doing this?

 

[No Swansong]

Oh really? I do not see any Muslims or Hundu calling themselves Christian here!

But you do so Unitarians, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons etc.

 

[No Swansong]

Well, I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt. What purpose would he have in doing this?

I understand giving people the benefit of the doubt. I cannot possibly give a reason why he did what he did. I have my suspicions but they are only suspicions and are unsupportable. If someone such as I can so closely predict what the outcome was going to be, I find it difficult to believe that someone as highly educated and purportedly experienced as Erwin couldn't.

 

[ReformedChapin]

I have only seen people calling themselves Christian here who believe in Him and His love Jesus taught us!

I have seen athiest sporting anglican Icons calling themselves "traditional christians."

That's beside the "non-trininatrians" and the liberals who are more idealistist than Christians.

 

[Epiphanygirl]

Flavor of the week anyone?

 

[Sothron]

There was no funny business. In fact, I don't see that reports are done much different than they were before; the only difference being that members can give input.

Unfortunately the secrecy of the old system bred distrust among the members, but that's not to say that there was any impropriety.

There are some people at IIDB that would disagree that nothing bad has ever happened like that. Personally I want openness just to keep things nice and honest so there can not be any kind of funny business or claims of said funny business.

 

[No Swansong]

There are some people at IIDB that would disagree that nothing bad has ever happened like that. Personally I want openness just to keep things nice and honest so there can not be any kind of funny business or claims of said funny business.

My friend I would be suspicious of anything posted there.
As for openness I am not opposed to openness in most cases. I think there are some cases that call for private deliberation.

 

[soblessed53]

I have only seen people calling themselves Christian here who believe in Him and His love Jesus taught us!

Yeah RIGHT!

Most Unitarian Universalists, however, do not believe that Jesus is the Son of God or the Messiah.

Unitarian Universalism
In a survey,[1] Unitarian Universalists in the United States were asked which provided term or set of terms best describe their belief. Many respondents chose more than one term to describe their beliefs. The top choices were:
Humanist - 54%
Agnostic - 33%
Earth-centered - 31%
Atheist - 18%
Buddhist - 16.5%
Christian - 13.1%
Pagan - 13.1%

General beliefs of UUs
Unitarian Universalists (UUs) believe in complete but responsible freedom of speech, thought, belief, faith, and disposition. They believe that each person is free to search for his or her own personal truth on issues like the existence, nature, and meaning of life, deities, creation, and afterlife. UUs can come from any heritage, have any sexual orientation, and hold beliefs from a variety of cultures or religions.
Concepts about deity are diverse among UUs. Some believe that there is no god (atheism); others believe in many gods (polytheism). Some believe that God is a metaphor for a transcendant reality. Some believe in a female god (goddess), a passive god (Deism), a Christian god, or a god manifested in nature or one which is the "ground of being". Some UUs reject the idea of deities and instead speak of "universal spirit" or "reverence of life". Unitarian Universalists support each person's search for truth and meaning in concepts of deity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Universalism

Sounds absolutely Pagan!

 

[soblessed53]

But you do so Unitarians, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons etc.

You got it!

 

[Tangeloper]

I feel sad inside...

I respect Erwin's decision being that I have no right to demand anything since he owns the site and all... But, I have to admit I am very sad about this no longer being "Christian Forums"!

I said before, that the reason I came here several weeks ago was because I was looking for a place to grow in fellowship with other Christians -- I was not looking for a "social networking site". If I had wanted that I would've gone to MySpace!

I didn't realize how sad I would feel at this development... I almost feel like crying and I've only been on this site for a few weeks!!!

What's interesting is that I also have a mixed feeling about the following: Is this going to be like "false advertising" for people who are looking for a secular message board, are we then going to be accused of trying to protelytize everyone who comes here??? Or, are we truly seeing this place completely shifting away from a foothold in Christ?

OK, well I'm willing to stick around and see how it goes, but I've a feeling that after a period of a few months the look and feel around here is going to be radically different... And, not in a good way either when looking at it from a Christian Perspective...

Thanks for listening to me complain!
Tangeloper

PS -- You can also add stunned to the list of how I feel right now. I was so incredibly happy to find this place and Christian in the title is exactly what drew me here in the first place!!!