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Personally, I don't find this to be the case but carry on...
 
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Here we go again with the works... You do know were are not saved by our works alone, right? You may not have noticed but you preach a works based salvation. You know that's not the entirety of the Christian message.

You are misrepresenting my position. I am drawing attention to Christ's 2nd great command to us. Faith without works is dead, but that doesn't mean we are saved through works, far from it. Of course, followers of Christ will obviously show their faith in the way they live and how much they give of themselves and their time and effort, especially to the least fortunate. That doesn't mean works save us. We must give our time and talents and treasure freely, but that's not /how/ we get saved.
 
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In my opinion only, spiritual people will know, not religious people, but spiritual people.
 
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Which communists? He was talking about a very specific movement.
Have no clue. Its my guess based on what I know of the great great pope and Saint that he was probably was referencing Communist or Communism. As Bishop that's the evil he dealt with directly.
 
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I am NOT misrepresenting anything. I am making an observation strictly off of what you complain about in every thread LWU opens.
 
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A side question. Is pope Francis year of mery in connection with the Divine Mercy?
 
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Oh, so you feel JP's Divine Mercy and Francis's mercy year is laying the ground work in preparation of the end times?
 
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Hmm, interesting.
 
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A side question. Is pope Francis year of mercy in connection with the Divine Mercy?
Yes. In his Bull of Indiction of the Extraordinary Jubilee of Mercy, Pope Francis says, "Our prayer also extends to the saints and blessed ones who made divine mercy their mission in life. I think especially of the great apostle of mercy, Saint Faustina Kowalska. May she, who was called to enter the depths of divine mercy, intercede for us and obtain for us the grace of living and walking always according to the mercy of God and with an unwavering trust in his love."
 
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With Pope Francis, not only is he dedicating a jubilee year to the Divine Mercy, but if you think about it, it has been the dominant theme of his papacy from day one.
Repent, cuz devil's running out of time and this false following of his (pope) is meant to twist him to keep those in error, following error and nor truly repenting. Hmm, really interesting. Makes sense.
And to both Mark and Mike, FYI, there is not a dang thing wrong with Catholics speculating about the end times. I almost dare you to both to say there is. Its only wrong when said speculation contradicts the faith or if we say its "of the faith". No one has done that. So this really should end the complaints. If you don't like speculating on the end times, then don't do it, but lord, to pick on those that do is uncalled for and I expect it to stop.
 
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Oh, so you feel JP's Divine Mercy and Francis's mercy year is laying the ground work in preparation of the end times?
Yes. I believe that, through the Vicar of Christ, God is giving the world a last chance to repent before the Second Coming and Final Judgment because Jesus said to Peter, "Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in Heaven."
 
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STOP! For the love of Pete, stop judging him. Some folks, for reasons that frankly aren't any of your beeswax may not be able to do all the wondrous things you do. I am really asking you to look deep and see that you are just like the rest of us here. We are all just doing the best we can with what God gives us.
 
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Yes. I believe that, through the Vicar of Christ, God is giving the world a last chance to repent before the Second Coming and Final Judgment because Jesus said to Peter, "Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in Heaven."
I never thought of that before. Makes sense. Pope's catering to the mass liberals because this just may be their final chance to repent before God hands them over to the hardness of their hearts. They'll have no excuse. Lights dawning for me on all levels now.
 
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Huh? I did none of what you said. I'm not sure what you think I said, but it isn't what you just typed. What Pope do you immagine I was trying to trump with another Pope?
In essence I feel you and Mark both tried to say, ignore what the past popes said about the end times and focus on what the more recent popes didn't say about it. As if what any recent pope says or don't say can trump past popes.
 
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In essence I feel you and Mark both tried to say, ignore what the past popes said about the end times and focus on what the more recent popes didn't say about it. As if what any recent pope says or don't say can trump past popes.

I did no such thing.
 
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I'm not judging anyone. You are correct, we cannot know what others are capable of and therefore we cannot know what they are culpable of, even if we were able to directly observe every action they make. What we can do, as you are doing and I am doing, is opine on others' statements. Another thing that we can do, as you are doing and I am doing, is ask questions, to help us determine whether a person's position is rooted in reason.

I am no better and likely much worse than most people here, I believe that we are among some very dedicated servants of God.
 
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and by serving your neighbor--depending on the reason for your service--he might wind up thinking you're a great guy to help him out.
and you would have your one-off reward here on earth for every time you did that.

by studying prophecy (getting equipped for fishing) and understanding the signs of the times,(learning how to use that fishing gear)
you can do more than serve your neighbor.

there is an old saying--give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.
teach a man to fish and he can feed himself and others for a lifetime.

in serving your neighbor, you're giving the man a fish.
maybe what really needs to happen is that you need to learn how to fish for yourself
so that you can then teach others how to fish.
 
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