Engineering Schools

[rocketboy]

what about getting stuck with a bad roomate...like one that does non christian stuff. is there any way to get a christian roomate?

 

[Grunt]

both my parents work at Indiana Weslayan, so i can go there with a free tuition waver. i think i may get my gen-eds overwith there, then transfer to an engineering college.

If that's what you want to do, just do your homework on it before you commit.

Based on the NCSU requirements (most places would be very similar, I would think) you will want, at minimum:

Calculus I, II, III
Differential Equations
[General] Chemistry I & II
[General Calculus-based] Physics I & II

Plus the normal english classes and other electives to satisfy various requirements.

Now, if you go the full two years before transfering, assuming you're able to get all of the above, you'll still transfer in slightly behind. NCSU, at least, calls for 4 engineering courses to be taken in the spring of your sophomore year (Engineering Dynamics, Aero Vehicle Performance, Solid Mechanics and Structural Properties of Engineering Materials) that'll you'll have to play catch-up on.

Of course, that's not really a big deal since transfers in from community colleges have to do it all the time.

Btw, Campus Crusade for Christ is a nationwide organization that should be at most schools.

 

[rocketboy]

Now, if you go the full two years before transfering, assuming you're able to get all of the above, you'll still transfer in slightly behind. NCSU, at least, calls for 4 engineering courses to be taken in the spring of your sophomore year (Engineering Dynamics, Aero Vehicle Performance, Solid Mechanics and Structural Properties of Engineering Materials) that'll you'll have to play catch-up on.

i understand...i knew this from looking at different schools

 

[Grunt]

what about getting stuck with a bad roomate...like one that does non christian stuff. is there any way to get a christian roomate?

You either find a way to tolerate or if it's extremely bad you can request a roommate change IIRC. I didn't know anyone who had it that bad, though. Dorm life isn't the nightmare that some people make it sound like.

If you know other people that are going to the same school, though, you can request to be roommates. Of course, that doesn't always work out either... my freshman year I roomed with a guy from my high school, only to discover that he took showers about once a month and lived like a pig (literally).

 

[rocketboy]

yeah my brother got stuck with a horrible roomate this past fall. he decided to change with someone else. i just dont want to get stuck with someone into porn, and other sinful acts.

 

[rocketboy]

I realize there are gonna be a TON of math and science classes, but im just gonna have to bite the bullit and take them.

 

[Grunt]

i just dont want to get stuck with someone into porn, and other sinful acts.

I think you'll find that it's only a very few college age guys who aren't into porn at some level. That's just part of the learning to tolerate it. Just because your roommate looks at it doesn't mean you have to. Sure, it may make it more tempting, but the world is full of that. You just have to learn to deal with it.

I realize there are gonna be a TON of math and science classes, but im just gonna have to bite the bullit and take them.

Well, I'm assuming that you're a junior in HS now. So, you have until late this year before you have to really start getting serious about where you want to go. If you're going to do engineering, you're going to be doing a ton of math and science for the rest of your career, not just for a few semesters. If that doesn't really appeal to you, then you might want to think about other alternatives. There are plenty of other aircraft/flight related careers that don't require an engineering degree.

If you're not absolutely sure about it, I would advise starting out at a community college and going the transfer route. You can get everything you need there, and if you decide after a semester, year or whatever that engineering's not the route you want to go, it's much better to have burned $1500 or so coming to that conclusion than $15000. Trust me, I know from personal experience.

 

[awesome liver]

this thread is hilarious. oh no not liberals! they'll infect you with something called thinking. seriously, if you can't stand the thought of being corrupted, then you should live forever in your bubble and forget the whole thing. you'll be ostrecized in the engineering departments not for your beliefs but for your lack of wilingness to accept the belief of others; it's going to be fun trying to discuss science with them on an intellectual level because a whole lot of liberal opinions are going to come your way.

 

[Super Gnat]

I realize there are gonna be a TON of math and science classes, but im just gonna have to bite the bullit and take them.

Trust me, once you get past the entry-level classes it gets a lot easier. It's hard to learn all that stuff, but once you've learned it and you can start using it, things really start looking up.

The roommate thing does kind of suck, but if you end up with somebody really hideous, you can always transfer out mid-semester. After your first year, generally you have more of a choice of where to live, so even if you can't find anybody godly to room with, you might end up in a suite with your own bedroom or even a single.

this thread is hilarious. oh no not liberals! they'll infect you with something called thinking. seriously, if you can't stand the thought of being corrupted, then you should live forever in your bubble and forget the whole thing. you'll be ostrecized in the engineering departments not for your beliefs but for your lack of wilingness to accept the belief of others; it's going to be fun trying to discuss science with them on an intellectual level because a whole lot of liberal opinions are going to come your way.

That hasn't been my experience at all. My classmates are mostly apathetic about politics, and those who aren't tend to be fairly mainstream in their political opinions, whether they fall to the right or to the left. Of course we can discuss science together; the only vaguely controversial thing we might differ on is evolution, and if me and my fellow biomedical engineers have never brought it up, it's unlikely to be an issue in aerospace engineering. Probably the toughest thing is dealing with the people who are nominally Christian, but sleeping with their SOs/swearing up a storm/getting drunk on the weekends/generally acting ungodly, but those people can be found in most Christian schools anyway, so it's not something that can be escaped.

ETA to rocketboy: Also, if you can, try to take Calculus I and a physics course in high school. It'll mean one less weed-out class to suffer through.

 

[Manda_24]

what about getting stuck with a bad roomate...like one that does non christian stuff. is there any way to get a christian roomate?

I kinda had a bad roommate my first year, but most of the time she didn't spend the night in our room. Her boyfriend had an apartment close, so she stayed with him. Occasionally he would stay in our dorm, it's a surprise in the morning when you get out of your loft and your roommate and her boyfriend are sleeping on the futon.
This year I have a Christian roommate and she gets on my nerves a lot. In most ways it is better than last year but in some it's not. Sometimes I feel like I am her mom or something, always cleaning up everything and stuff like that.
I've had friends that didn't have Christian roommates and they are good friends with them still. It all depends, and if all else fails and it is the worst possible situation you can get a room change. Sometimes when you are filling out your housing applications there are choices you want in a roommate, such as music taste, do they smoke, or drink, etc. When I was in the dorms we (you and your roommate) sat down together and made up some rules for your room, like cleanliness, study times/quite hours, guest and stuff like that, then we signed them and gave them to the RA.

Trust me, once you get past the entry-level classes it gets a lot easier. It's hard to learn all that stuff, but once you've learned it and you can start using it, things really start looking up.

Yeah, your first year in engineering (so I've heard) is basically a lot of weed out classes. All majors have them but the engineering ones are pretty much the worst, the ones for my major (Animal Science/Ag Education) weren't too bad but they were still there.

That hasn't been my experience at all. My classmates are mostly apathetic about politics, and those who aren't tend to be fairly mainstream in their political opinions, whether they fall to the right or to the left. Of course we can discuss science together; the only vaguely controversial thing we might differ on is evolution, and if me and my fellow biomedical engineers have never brought it up, it's unlikely to be an issue in aerospace engineering. Probably the toughest thing is dealing with the people who are nominally Christian, but sleeping with their SOs/swearing up a storm/getting drunk on the weekends/generally acting ungodly, but those people can be found in most Christian schools anyway, so it's not something that can be escaped.

In all but one of my biology classes we have basically avoided the subject of creation and evolution, they will quickly mention something and move on really fast. So even the teachers don't talk about it too much.
It's true, you will find people who do all sorts of things and claim to be Christians at both secular and Christian colleges.

ETA to rocketboy: Also, if you can, try to take Calculus I and a physics course in high school. It'll mean one less weed-out class to suffer through.

This is so true, I didn't have physics in high school and really regretted not taking it. You still may get stuck taking it but at least you will have some idea about what is going on and that makes it just that much easier.

 

[rocketboy]

This is so true, I didn't have physics in high school and really regretted not taking it. You still may get stuck taking it but at least you will have some idea about what is going on and that makes it just that much easier.

Yeah im gonna take calculus, physics, and trig next year.

 

[rocketboy]

seriously, if you can't stand the thought of being corrupted, then you should live forever in your bubble and forget the whole thing.

Tell me...is there somthing wrong with this? I would rather live in a christian bubble than have to experience the daily torment of a sinful world.

 

[Grunt]

ETA to rocketboy: Also, if you can, try to take Calculus I and a physics course in high school. It'll mean one less weed-out class to suffer through.

You definetly want to take calculus if you can.. especially if you can do the AP course. Having a year to learn that fundamental stuff ('cause you'll be needing it for many other things) would be really nice.

Physics I guess just depends. I doubt you're going to find a calculus based physics course at the high school level, since at best you'll just be taking calculus your senior year, so it's not likely that you'll be able to knock out those hours. Personally I found my high school physics course absolutely worthless - just a bunch of statics problems with no thinking involved.

Yeah, your first year in engineering (so I've heard) is basically a lot of weed out classes. All majors have them but the engineering ones are pretty much the worst, the ones for my major (Animal Science/Ag Education) weren't too bad but they were still there.

I'm sure it caries from school to school, but here differential equations is the only big weed-out class. At least, I didn't consider the calculus, chemistry, phsyics etc to be weed-out courses - they're not overly hard, they're just a lot of work.

 

[Grunt]

Tell me...is there somthing wrong with this? I would rather live in a christian bubble than have to experience the daily torment of a sinful world.

I hate to tell you, but unless you are going to work a minimum wage job the rest of your life to avoid leaving your hometown, sooner or later your bubble is going to burst. Your faith will be challenged eventually, whether it is directly challenged by someone, or you read or hear something that creates doubts in your own mind. You will eventually be faced with temptation, probably many times and in many different forms. There are times that the nature of the world is frustrating, saddening, and less than pleasant. Whether or not you let it be a daily torment to you, though, is a choice that you make.

No offense, but it sounds like you are fairly naive about the "real world." That's part of the college experience - meeting new people, seeing new ideas and beliefs.

 

[Super Gnat]

My DiffEq class actually wasn't that bad, but that might be because I took it over the summer at the community college. I guess the big thing at my university with Calc and Physics and stuff is that the lectures are so huge, and a lot of the time the TA's aren't much help, so it can be hard to motivate yourself and to be sure that you actually understand the material before you're tested on it. Higher level classes are smaller, and the professors are more interested in the topic and in you. They're still hard, but not in the same way.

I took a non-calculus based physics class in high school, but it was still really helpful in college because I had some idea of what they were talking about, like Manda_24 mentioned. That can really make a big difference.

 

[rocketboy]

I hate to tell you, but unless you are going to work a minimum wage job the rest of your life to avoid leaving your hometown, sooner or later your bubble is going to burst. Your faith will be challenged eventually, whether it is directly challenged by someone, or you read or hear something that creates doubts in your own mind. You will eventually be faced with temptation, probably many times and in many different forms. There are times that the nature of the world is frustrating, saddening, and less than pleasant. Whether or not you let it be a daily torment to you, though, is a choice that you make.

No offense, but it sounds like you are fairly naive about the "real world." That's part of the college experience - meeting new people, seeing new ideas and beliefs.

lol i understand this. i just have to say i dont like any of the secular school in this state i would rather go to a christan college. i want to thank all of you for your help. dont ge me wrong grunt, i have seen a lot in my short life. but i would like to stay away from what the world has to offer as much as possible because from what ive seen i dont like it at all.

 

[tryniti]

Back to the original question of a good christian engineering school, check out LeTourneau university. www.letu.edu you will find that it has an incredible engineering program as well as a strong Christian heritage and focus. That is where I am at this year, thoguh not for engineering. The only qualm you would find would be that you would most likely want to major in mechanical engineering, then get a job on the field in the aerospace industry. While we have a strong aviation program here, most of the companies are looking for ME rather than aviaiton design tech.

As far as being a good school, if you graduate from LeTourneau, you will have a job in the industry. yes it is a tough program, but it is an incredible school. let me know if you have any questions or want any info, id be happy to send it along. We are in Longview, Texas.

I am here for aeronautical science-I am going to be a pilot. The school's biggest and strongest programs are our aviation and engineering programs.

 

[eviltangerine]

yea, for engineering, I would strongly reconsider the "no-secular schools"....the schools with the great engineering focus just tend not to be of the overtly christian variety.

But this brings up another issue...a christian school is (personally) like a secular school. The only difference is the external appearance...the christian schools still have drug problems, drinking problems, and everything a secular school has. If anything, I think being at a secular school definitely helps strengthen your faith -- you'll meet people from all sorts of backgrounds, and college is the one time in your life that you actually have the time and interaction with these people to ask them the hard questions.

If you must, see it as a mission field rather than a (land)mine field.

But if you go to the secular school, get plugged in with the right people and you'll be fine. Freshman year can be stressful for any body...but look into christian groups on campus and soon enough you'll have enough friends between the dorms, "college group", classes, work, everything....college is truly awesome, don't limit your opportunities.

and of course, pray for guidance in this. If you really feel led to a christian school, so be it. But don't rule out what could be.

 

[Diane_Windsor]

Hey, does anyone out there know of any good colleges that offer engineering?
thanks

Texas A&M is a top-notch engineering school. Here are some links to their various engineering departments. Texas also has a high-ranking engineering school. Be forewarned that class sizes are huge (300+ students a class) at both Texas A&M and Texas, so it would be difficult for you to get to know your profs.

A good alternative to those schools is my alma mater, Baylor University, which also has top-notch engineering programs. Here is the website. At Baylor you have relatively small classes, and you really get to know your profs.

DIANE

 

[Diane_Windsor]

Thanks everyone. i want to get into aerospace engineering. I am looking for a christian school tho. i live a few hours away from purdue, but my parents would like to see me go to a christian school. i have to agree with them...im not to fond of secular schools.

I strongly suggest you look into Baylor then, however; I'm not sure if they offer aerospace engineering. We have stayed very close to our Baptist roots, and the odds of you having a Christian roommie are great.

BTW, despite being a state school Texas A&M is fairly conservative (heck they have the elder Bush's library!), and has a large Christian student body. Yes, A&M do offer aerospace engineering. Here are TAMU's religious organizations, and there are a few Aggies here that might be able to answer a few questions.

DIANE