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Humor with a point set aside, I would like to encourage you to do as my wife and I did - don't get a diamond ring. Get something else!
Break with that tradition.

I make this plea as a Christian to other Christians. We are to spread the love of Christ and be Christlike in all areas of life. That includes what we buy. And these stones - diamonds - are very very often mined under terrible conditions. I am convinced it is part of our responsibility to abstain from unethical trade and as such I encourage you to avoid natural diamonds.
What's more, I would also encourage you to break with tradition entirely, and not get any diamond. Lab produced or natural simply because the fact that having a diamond engagement ring strengthens the traditions' power with other people around us. Which in turn only serves to strengthen the market.

My wife and I did something else. We got simple rings for both of us. (I wanted to show I was engaged too! Why should only women get to show that?). And decided to spend the money a fancy diamond would have cost on something more substantial. We ended up giving a lot of money to a friend in need for medical help, so instead of a diamond on my wife's finger, we helped save a life instead. That's worth so much more than a stone. Don't you think?
 

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Ugh, not this blood diamond trash again.

I guess you shouldn't buy gas for your car because it comes from the poor Iraqis who can't afford electricity while big companies make money. In fact, you shouldn't even own a car because you're polluting Earth and creating global warming which will effectively kill everyone. I suppose you should also not spend any money you obviously don't NEED to spend and send the rest to organizations that help poor people.

Seriously, the hypocrisy behind some of these Christian "protests" are completely asinine.
 
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Ugh, not this blood diamond trash again.

I guess you shouldn't buy gas for your car because it comes from the poor Iraqis who can't afford electricity while big companies make money. In fact, you shouldn't even own a car because you're polluting Earth and creating global warming which will effectively kill everyone. I suppose you should also not spend any money you obviously don't NEED to spend and send the rest to organizations that help poor people.

Seriously, the hypocrisy behind some of these Christian "protests" are completely asinine.
what do you really think though? :p
 
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Hmm, has anybody else really researched this claim about 'blood diamonds' or did we all just go and see that over-the-top movie with Leo in it, and simply roll our eyes? (like me)

I think some diamonds are retrieved by those means, but not all of them.
 
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Do you have to ask the jeweler or something to know for sure, I wonder? I wouldn't want to support something like that, call me a hypocrite, I can't be perfect in that sentiment.. But if I can alleviate one person's pain just a bit, I won't have lived in vain..
 
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Do you have to ask the jeweler or something to know for sure, I wonder? I wouldn't want to support something like that, call me a hypocrite, I can't be perfect in that sentiment.. But if I can alleviate one person's pain just a bit, I won't have lived in vain..

I'm sure there are ways to find out. Maybe do a google search but I really couldn't tell you. :sorry:
 
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Do you have to ask the jeweler or something to know for sure, I wonder? I wouldn't want to support something like that, call me a hypocrite, I can't be perfect in that sentiment.. But if I can alleviate one person's pain just a bit, I won't have lived in vain..
just get Canadian diamonds :p
 
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I think some diamonds are retrieved by those means, but not all of them.

No, not all of them. But there is hardly any way for the end consumer to know how they were mined. We can ask the jeweller, but he might not know. And even if he thinks he does - he might very well not be right.

Besides, my quarrel is not only with the immoral side of the diamond business. But with several key aspects.

1. What diamonds represent in terms of:
- consumerism/materialism
I think it is disturbing to see diamonds carry such a heavy focus. Why should a young couple who decide to marry pay a laaarge sum for a piece of jewelry when they have so many expenses upcoming? Why put such a heavy focus on the engagement ring, and so little on the actual wedding band for instance? It seems skewed to me.
- societal structure and status
Again, especially due to the age of newly engaged couples it is hard to get a stone of any size, but us guys feel a pretty intense pressure on getting as large a one as we can, because of what it represents. Because of it's societal importance. Even a small stone can leave a significant dent in our budgets which will be very hard to deal with considering the upcoming expenses related to getting married, building a home, possible children soon after...

2. What getting a diamond reveals
This blends in with #1 I guess. But getting a diamond can in many parts of society be critical to gain respect from the in-laws. Why? No-one really knows. Not really. A diamond in itself is a common stone, but has been priced ludicrously high because of a very good advertising campaign. So I am left to wonder, does getting a diamond actually say "I love you", or does it say "I care more about appearances and cultural norms than I do about common sense and our future together as a couple"?! A ring like an engagement ring is a beautiful thing which can be a wonderful thing to own as a memento if nothing else. But why a diamond? As stated, they are overpriced, often from origins which are hard to trace and can be very unethically acquired. And not to mention that
- they are exceptionally common and normal on engagement rings. What about something that speaks about your relationship specifically? Instead of something which is so standard you see it on the hands of almost every engaged or married girl out there - why not get something unique? Why not put more thought into it than "How big a diamond can my fiancee/I afford?" Or "Platinum or gold?"

In my personal opinion I find engagement rings for women alone to be an unfair business... What's more though, I am a romantic, though not the kind who thinks what everyone else does is romantic - I prefer to do things my way. I wrote our vows for the wedding ceremony. I proposed in a very unusual fashion. And our rings were a unique representation of our love.
A diamond can't deliver that too easilly. It's too normal. Too common. So it seems to me if you get a diamond you're more concerned about how expensive the engagement ring is than what you say with the ring you give. Oh sure, any ring is a symbol of love - but is it a symbol of your love?

Hmm, has anybody else really researched this claim about 'blood diamonds' or did we all just go and see that over-the-top movie with Leo in it, and simply roll our eyes? (like me)

Actually, I was glad to see the movie put the spotlight on a very real problem. That movie was by no means why we chose what we did though.

I don't get it. The people in the pic look healthy and happy. Surely buying diamonds help them out?

Sure. You know, as you went to Bergenbelsen or Auschwitz you'd find people who smiled and laughed. That doesn't mean the concentration camps were good and the people happy to be there. Smiles is one of our best ways of coping with terrible conditions. Many survived the holocaust largely due to humor.
Slave labor doesn't mean people look like the photos of kids from Sudan hunger catastrophes.
A friend of mine is a missionary in Bangladesh. He told me of a couple of guys he met who were construction workers, in his words they looked like greek gods - toned muscles unlike the best you see on beaches in the west. Lean bodies. BUT - slaves nevertheless. Well, not slaves really. Worse. He recalled what happened at a construction site when one of the workers broke a leg - his colleagues carried him off the construction site and dumped him in a ditch. That was it - he was fired. These people may not be slaves in the traditional sense. That would be better than what they are. They get paid but a few dollars (if that) for stones that sells for tens of thousands of dollars here.
 
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