Wild isn't it! Can you imagine it all coming to pass in our generation! How exciting!!!
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Originally posted by Acts6:5
Hey Auntie,
How long did you have to wait before the figure appeared? I'd like to take a look at it.
In Christ,
Acts6:5
I believe we are....Are we in the end times?...
In the parable of the fig tree, I believe Jesus was saying that the generation that saw the re-establishment of the nation of physical Israel (the rebudding of the fig tree) would see the tribulation and 2nd coming (Matthew 24:32-34). The nation of physical Israel was re-established in 1948 and I believe a generation is 70 years, for Psalm 90:10 speaks of how long it takes for a generation to pass away, which is exactly what Jesus refers to....Why?...
Note that no scripture promises us a rapture before the tribulation. Jesus says he will come to gather us together "immediately after the tribulation" (Matthew 24:29-31), and Paul says Jesus' coming to gather us together must "destroy" the Antichrist (2 Thessalonians 2:1-8). We Christians must go through the coming tribulation (Revelation 13:7-10, 14:12-13)....I believe that we (believers) will be "caught up" before the tribulation...
Our being caught up into the clouds to meet Jesus' at his coming and then returning back to the earth with him will be similar to the people coming out of Jerusalem to meet Jesus and then returning back to the city with him (John 12:12-13) or the Roman Christians coming out of Rome to meet Paul and returning back to the city with him (Acts 28:15-16)....Why would we be raptured only to immediately return with Jesus?...
"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be" (Matthew 24:36-37)....no one ever knows when Jesus's coming back...
Is there a verse which refers to "tribulation saints," and says they aren't part of the church? Doesn't the church include every believer? "There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith" (Ephesians 4:4-5), which body is the church: "the church, which is his body" (Ephesians 1:22-23)....The tribulation saints...
In the parable of the 10 virgins, some believe the wise virgins must be taken in a pre-trib rapture. But the door is closed at Christ's coming (Matthew 25:10, compare Luke 13:24-28), which Jesus had just finished saying would be "immediately after the tribulation" (Matthew 24:29-31). There's no 3rd coming of Christ....the five foolish virgins...
Originally posted by postrib
Note that no scripture promises us a rapture before the tribulation.
Some teach that the church must be spared from the tribulation like Noah and Lot were spared. But the same coming is referred to in Matthew 24:37 that is referred to in Matthew 24:30. There's no 3rd coming of Christ. The Bible says Noah's deliverance was a type of our deliverance through baptism (1 Peter 3:20-21), not rapture, and the judgment on Sodom and Gomorrha was a type of the eternal judgment of hellfire (Jude 7), not a type of the tribulation....Noah and Lot...
I believe it's possible neither the seals nor the trumpets are his wrath....the tribulation isn't God's wrath...