"Embedded Age" Requires Fake Fossils

[davedajobauk]

'Allegory' and 'Allegation'

are very similar words for-sure

Surely the parables are analogous of, better / more acceptable behaviours
Used for teaching the unschooled
ie: by-example

dave

 

[AV1611VET]

'Allegory' and 'Allegation'

are very similar words for-sure

Surely the parables are analogous of, better / more acceptable behaviours
Used for teaching the unschooled
ie: by-example

dave

Are you talking to me, Dave?

If so, I agree with you.

If not, I still agree with you.

Someone once described a parable as:

A real event, told with a Heavenly meaning.

In the parable of the sowers, for example, Jesus saw real people sowing seeds and watched as some fell upon stony ground and fertile ground.

When He told the story, He added to it how Satan works in the background, blinding unbelievers to the Truth.

 

[davedajobauk]

I thought we were all concerned in discussing 'these matters'
forgive me for intervening, if, this is/was not the case

I very-often found myself, teaching my children with analogies
ie: "how would you feel if someone treated you in a particularly nasty way"?
followed quickly by:
"and how do you think they would feel, if you were to treat them in this way" ?

Their answers to me (of course) would, be similar
and so, I managed, to 'get-across' my teaching

By using, their 'limited-understanding' to see a 'mental-picture'
and so, to-present (to them) a behavioural 'understanding'

dave

 

[davedajobauk]

And, it is quite obvious to a farmer, that crops 'fair-poorly' in unprepared soils

dave

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Someone once described a parable as:

A real event, told with a Heavenly meaning.

In the parable of the sowers, for example, Jesus saw real people sowing seeds and watched as some fell upon stony ground and fertile ground.

When He told the story, He added to it how Satan works in the background, blinding unbelievers to the Truth.

All his parables were told in ways the common man in that time would understand. Farmers could grasp the analogy as could herders and fishermen easily grasp others.

What those in this day and age always forget is that most of the populations consisted of farmers and herders and fishermen during that period of time.

Of course he works in the background - he owns the place. For now.

 

[AV1611VET]

I very-often found myself, teaching my children with analogies
ie: "how would you feel if someone treated you in a particularly nasty way"?
followed quickly by:
"and how do you think they would feel, if you were to treat them in this way" ?

That's nice.

Now what would you do if you took your grandson in for a haircut and the barber gave him a sucker afterward, and your grandson asked for another one to give to his sister?

Would you explain that's how Jesus intercedes for us?

If so, are you using a real example to explain a real Truth?

 

[AV1611VET]

All his parables were told in ways the common man in that time would understand. Farmers could grasp the analogy as could herders and fishermen easily grasp others.

Correct.

What those in this day and age always forget is that most of the populations consisted of farmers and herders and fishermen during that period of time.

Okay.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

That's nice.

Now what would you do if you took your grandson in for a haircut and the barber gave him a sucker afterward, and your grandson asked for another one to give to his sister?

Would you explain that's how Jesus intercedes for us?

If so, are you using a real example to explain a real Truth?

You mean real examples like English Mastiff's and Huskies mating and producing Chinook's instead of English Mastiff's evolving over time into a Chinook?

 

[Nic Samojluk]

Thanks! I can live with that; nevertheless, I do not have a blind faith in the aging techniques employed by Geo-science experts.

 

[Nic Samojluk]

Adam was created ex materia from the dust of the earth.

At the time he was created, he was created as an adult.

About 20 or 30 years old.
Thanks! I can live with that; nevertheless, I do not have a blind faith in the aging techniques employed by Geo-science experts.

Embedded Age Creation is simply the belief that God embedded age into His creation.

I define it as: maturity without history.

Things appear old because they are old.

Put another way, God created a 4.47 billion year old earth in 4004 BC.

The earth is 4.47 billion years old physically; but 6018 years old existentially.

Thanks! I can live with that; nevertheless, I do not have a blind faith in the aging techniques employed by Geo-science experts.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Thanks! I can live with that; nevertheless, I do not have a blind faith in the aging techniques employed by Geo-science experts.

The good thing about science is that you do not need blind faith. If you want to you can learn how the science is done and read the peer reviewed articles on how they did their work for yourself. The scientific method includes open publication of ones work. There are no "secrets of science". If the ideas are secret then they are not scientific.

 

[RickG]

nevertheless, I do not have a blind faith in the aging techniques employed by Geo-science experts.

Why?

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Put another way, God created a 4.47 billion year old earth in 4004 BC.

The earth is 4.47 billion years old physically; but 6018 years old existentially.

No, the earth is old because it existed before the cataclysm that befell it. Man and the animals with him are of recent origin, not the earth or previous life - dinosaurs.

The Hebrew word is "hayah"

And the earth "became" desolate and waste... and darkness became.... After the destruction God moved and made a new creation out of the old, this one with a difference that was worth mentioning. His works are from ancient times and he did not create the earth in vain. So although it was destroyed, He created it to be inhabited, nor did He create it empty of life at the start - of which we can not determine that length of time.

Did all the animals that came to Adam to be named take a single day? How long did Adam spend in the garden before there was any need to reckon time for planting and sowing?

 

[Nic Samojluk]

The strength of evidence is also based on the assumptions the theory is based on. Can you list the assumptions the dating techniques are based on. I once read a list of 20 such assumptions.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The strength of evidence is also based on the assumptions the theory is based on. Can you list the assumptions the dating techniques are based on. I once read a list of 20 such assumptions.

Did you get your list from a reputable source? You probably did not. The problem usually arises from the use of the word "assumptions". Most of the time what they call assumptions are actually deductions. I have found that most creationist sources are far from honest.

 

[Nic Samojluk]

The good thing about science is that you do not need blind faith. If you want to you can learn how the science is done and read the peer reviewed articles on how they did their work for yourself. The scientific method includes open publication of ones work. There are no "secrets of science". If the ideas are secret then they are not scientific.

The strength of evidence is also based on the assumptions the theory is based on. Can you list the assumptions the dating techniques are based on. I once read a list of 20 such assumptions.

 

[Nic Samojluk]

Did you get your list from a reputable source?[/QUOTE

The list of assumptions was presented by a renowned UCR professor who is en evolutionist.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The strength of evidence is also based on the assumptions the theory is based on. Can you list the assumptions the dating techniques are based on. I once read a list of 20 such assumptions.

Did you read my prior post here?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Can you link this claim.

And what is UCR?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Your use of the Quote function is not quite correct yet. My problem is with your use of the word "assumption". Most of the so called assumptions are not assumptions.

For example in a uniform melt that produces a sample that is tested with the K/Ar dating method one might say that they "assume" that the initial amount of daughter product is zero. That is not an assumption that is a well reasoned deduction. Argon, which is one of the products of K40 decay, is a noble gas. In a liquid it would tend to rise to the top. It is also excluded in the crystal forming process so it is a reasonable deduction to take the initial concentration of Ar40 as zero.