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Embarrassing Evolution proofs

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You must really hate Richard the way you go on and on about him.

No sir, .. and hey, could you please stop dancing front of me like that for a minute (That's if that is you in that vid.?) I'm trying to be serious here.

But no, I don't hate Dawkins, actually he is the prefect poster boy of this skull & bones worshipping Religion, .. like a BB-Evolution Billy Graham. He is how I open peoples eyes about this belief system, why it was created, he makes it so obvious.
I actually thank God for him, and of course he is in my prayers. He is getting old, would hate to see him show up unrepented before our Lord Jesus Christ on the fast coming Last Day, .. you know what I mean?
 
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They didn't take over science, the added to it. You don't get to claim the prestige of science while ignoring it's methods and results.

Research and experiment have generated evidence for an old Earth, a Big Bang and a universal common ancestor for all life.

You strongly disagree with these points, but you don't have scientific evidence... so you are left with sneering in place of debate.

Nonsense.

Dawkins and Cosmology has nothing to do with Piltdown man or any other evolutionary fake or forgery.

Dawkins was once a very successful scientist, and is now a very outspoken atheist. I'm not a fan personally, but I'd like you to actually present some evidence that his beliefs about evolution are in any way pseudoscience.

In addition is what way is the very practical and evidenced use of observational astronomy and particle physics not legitimate science?

How does naming stars after pagan gods like Venus, Mars, Jupiter etc., then creating a fantastic story how they popped out of nothing, and are expanding in this nothing from nowhere, which will soon go back to nothing in nowhere as if you never existed, .. and then digging up graves disturbing the bones of our relatives and robbing them of skull & bones, then going around schools scarring children by actually telling them this is their ancestors, how could this craziness possibly add prestige to science?

What benefit is there telling your children, and then forcing this on my children that they are not really Created in their Creators image, that "there is no such thing as Intelligent Design", but that they are animals, apes, who came about by a cosmological accident!?

Evidence? What evidence does one need to show the awesomeness, the incredible work that went into the creation of life on earth?


What is scientific about dissecting a frog, especially a human and instead of noting the wonders of how wonderfully everything works because someone who cared intelligently designed and put our bodies together, instead shove a skeleton and dead men's bones in their faces and say: This, .. see, this is how you evolved by accident, no will or plan of anyone, and take a good look at this this deformed skull because this was your ancestor! Forget looking at the people around you, they are animals, walking, eating sleeping because their environment tells them to by causing spasms in the brain.

How is Dawkins idea of evolution pseudoscience? After observing the wonders of nature, the awesomeness in the design of a human body, and to go around telling everyone that there is no design, there is no reason, there was never a plan to their existence, but that they are the results of catastrophic accidents, of meteor showers that have decimated the earth many times over, volcano eruptions, tectonic plate movements, earthquakes, ice ages and other hellish horrors which caused their existence, you call science?

Scientists go out to check on volcanoes to learn of them and to detect future eruptions, while people like Dawkins and other Evolutionists go dig up graves and collect dead men's bones to tell us who they say we are, and point to the beauty of nature and how all things work together and literally turn it into chaos! A Volcanic hell.

Look what happened to people who been taught that they came about by a cosmological accident, that no one really cares about them, and that they are animals! Look what happened in every country that taught this to their children, like in Russia, China especially in Cambodia where children acted out exactly what they been taught, being convinced that they are animals, will act like animals. Small kids murdered their own families, tortured them to death, exactly like what Dawkins taught about his human evolution without a Creator, without laws, or plan, or anyone's care whether they live or die, they went on killing void of any emotions, .. then Russia and all the other Atheistic-Evolutionary Communist countries that caused hundreds of millions of deaths over the centuries, .. you call this science?

Science helps humanity progress, how could a form of science that tells children that they are animals, that they have no real free will but nature influences their thoughts, their actions be anything other than pseudoscience?

God bless you.
 
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How does naming stars after pagan gods like Venus, Mars, Jupiter etc., then creating a fantastic story how they popped out of nothing, and are expanding in this nothing from nowhere, which will soon go back to nothing in nowhere as if you never existed, .. and then digging up graves disturbing the bones of our relatives and robbing them of skull & bones, then going around schools scarring children by actually telling them this is their ancestors, how could this craziness possibly add prestige to science?

What benefit is there telling your children, and then forcing this on my children that they are not really Created in their Creators image, that "there is no such thing as Intelligent Design", but that they are animals, apes, who came about by a cosmological accident!?

Evidence? What evidence does one need to show the awesomeness, the incredible work that went into the creation of life on earth?


What is scientific about dissecting a frog, especially a human and instead of noting the wonders of how wonderfully everything works because someone who cared intelligently designed and put our bodies together, instead shove a skeleton and dead men's bones in their faces and say: This, .. see, this is how you evolved by accident, no will or plan of anyone, and take a good look at this this deformed skull because this was your ancestor! Forget looking at the people around you, they are animals, walking, eating sleeping because their environment tells them to by causing spasms in the brain.

How is Dawkins idea of evolution pseudoscience? After observing the wonders of nature, the awesomeness in the design of a human body, and to go around telling everyone that there is no design, there is no reason, there was never a plan to their existence, but that they are the results of catastrophic accidents, of meteor showers that have decimated the earth many times over, volcano eruptions, tectonic plate movements, earthquakes, ice ages and other hellish horrors which caused their existence, you call science?

Scientists go out to check on volcanoes to learn of them and to detect future eruptions, while people like Dawkins and other Evolutionists go dig up graves and collect dead men's bones to tell us who they say we are, and point to the beauty of nature and how all things work together and literally turn it into chaos! A Volcanic hell.

Look what happened to people who been taught that they came about by a cosmological accident, that no one really cares about them, and that they are animals! Look what happened in every country that taught this to their children, like in Russia, China especially in Cambodia where children acted out exactly what they been taught, being convinced that they are animals, will act like animals. Small kids murdered their own families, tortured them to death, exactly like what Dawkins taught about his human evolution without a Creator, without laws, or plan, or anyone's care whether they live or die, they went on killing void of any emotions, .. then Russia and all the other Atheistic-Evolutionary Communist countries that caused hundreds of millions of deaths over the centuries, .. you call this science?

Science helps humanity progress, how could a form of science that tells children that they are animals, that they have no real free will but nature influences their thoughts, their actions be anything other than pseudoscience?

God bless you.

You REALLY have no clue what you are talking about, do you?
 
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DNA has proven evolution, we're 98% similar to chimpanzees: $$$cientists excluded 1.3 billion letters and compared the remaining 2.4 billion to get the 98% similar figure, this further "establish" evolution theory.

I completly missed this last time, yeah they did exclude alot you know why? They only looked at the DNA that actually mattered, the coding DNA, AKA the stuff where all the changes that actually effect the changes from human to chimp. Also the exact % is complicated due to changes in the chromosones themselves as adding or subtracting dna pairs changes things.

Do you consider
AACTAAGT
ACTAAGT 12.5% different, or 87.5% different? Or what about?
TGAATCAA 12.5% different or 100% different.

the 12.5% difference on both is a big part because while a large part of the sequence is changed, it's only 1 actual difference in both cases. What the scientists were doing wasn't, lets lineup human chromosone 1 with ape chromosone 1 and look straight across and see what % of each chromosone is simular, they looked at the genes and other things and compared them and looked for the changes. if there is a pair insertion/deletion near the start of chromosone 1 in either species you suddenly find it'st 99.999999% different which isn't the goal.
 
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also consider this: we never seen an ape turn into human...

Yeah. We've also never seen a primate turn into a human. Nor a feliform turn into a cat. Nor a sarcopterygian turn into a lungfish. Nor a mollusk turn into a scallop. Nor a eudicot turn into a cactus.
 
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Yeah. We've also never seen a primate turn into a human. Nor a feliform turn into a cat. Nor a sarcopterygian turn into a lungfish. Nor a mollusk turn into a scallop. Nor a eudicot turn into a cactus.

But if it was a self-assembling fire-hydrant, then it would only make fire hydrants! And thus, Calvinism.
 
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creationists actually accept science and reject non scientific theory. as they should do.
So I gather you accept Big Bang scientific theory and the severe weather patterns predicted by science then
 
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So I gather you accept Big Bang scientific theory and the severe weather patterns predicted by science then
if it has scientific evidence sure. why not? but evoilution has no scientific evidence so its not the same case...
 
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if it has scientific evidence sure. why not? but evoilution has no scientific evidence so its not the same case...

Except it does have evidence.
 
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if it has scientific evidence sure. why not? but evoilution has no scientific evidence so its not the same case...

What have you done to learn if there is scientific evidence for evolution? Have you asked the scientists who study it? Have you read the resources on line that show the evidence for evolution? What have you done to give yourself an actual education on the subject?
 
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if it has scientific evidence sure. why not? but evoilution has no scientific evidence so its not the same case...
When I say 'Dipnoi' what comes to your mind? If it isn't lung fish which have a 3 chambered heart, then you need to LOOK for evidence, no one will come to your house and GIVE it to you. Buy a book, or do the online course someone posted here.
 
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I bet most of the people here bashing evolution don't even understand how it works

In my experience, a lot of people who bash evolution aren't actually bashing evolution. They're bashing a strawman they've dubbed "evolution" instead.
 
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I've been away for a while, and have just read this thread.

The conclusions I make from it are that it appears to be impossible to be an actively debating young earth creationist, and still remain honest. There are clear lies here, like a pretence to be unaware of the evidence for evolution. Or what evolution actually is. Nobody can remain active on a forum like this, and just reading this thread, and not know this. Hence, I cannot see that a pretence of ignorance can be anything but a lie.

There are observable differences between someone being wrong out of honest ignorance, and someone being wrong because they are telling deliberate lies. What I see here looks to me to be deliberate knowing lies, not ignorance.

Hence, I can easily post evidences for evolution. I can easily state how evolution is scientific because it could have been falsified. However, unless I see anyone around who actually doesn't know this information already, what is the point of posting?

However, as soon as I post that, I guessed that this is just the same game played by others who have nothing to support their point of view.

Ask for evidence for evolution. Claiming there is none.
Get detailed and correct answer giving evidences for evolution.
Ask for evidence of evolution again. Claiming there is none.
Get detailed and correct answer giving evidences for evolution.
Ask for evidence of evolution again. Claiming there is none.
Get detailed and correct answer giving evidences for evolution.
[repeat an inordinate number of times]
Ask for evidence of evolution again. Claiming there is none.
[no answer, as people have given up]
Declare self winner, saying that no-one has been able to provide evidence of evolution.
 
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