Ellen White on the Sabbath

[MoreCoffee]

The Sabbath was embodied in the law given from Sinai; but it was not then first made known as a day of rest. The people of Israel had a knowledge of it before they came to Sinai. On the way thither the Sabbath was kept. When some profaned it, the Lord reproved them, saying, "How long refuse ye to keep My commandments and My laws?" Ex. 16:28. (THE DESIRE OF AGES, Chapter 29, page 283)​

The above quote accurately reflects on the passage it quotes.

And it came to pass on the seventh day, that there went out some of the people for to gather, and they found none. And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws? See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day. So the people rested on the seventh day. And the house of Israel called the name thereof Manna: and it was like coriander seed, white; and the taste of it was like wafers made with honey. (Exodus 16:27-31)​

 

[MoreCoffee]

The Sabbath was not for Israel merely, but for the world. It had been made known to man in Eden, and, like the other precepts of the Decalogue, it is of imperishable obligation. Of that law of which the fourth commandment forms a part, Christ declares, "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in nowise pass from the law." So long as the heavens and the earth endure, the Sabbath will continue as a sign of the Creator's power. And when Eden shall bloom on earth again, God's holy rest day will be honored by all beneath the sun. "From one Sabbath to another" the inhabitants of the glorified new earth shall go up "to worship before Me, saith the Lord." Matt. 5:18; Isa. 66:23.​

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:17-20)The words of Christ are in red.

They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD. For I know their works and their thoughts:

it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory. And I will set a sign among them, and I will send those that escape of them unto the nations, to Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, that draw the bow, to Tubal, and Javan, to the isles afar off, that have not heard my fame, neither have seen my glory; and they shall declare my glory among the Gentiles. And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto the LORD out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith the LORD, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the LORD. And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites, saith the LORD. For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD. And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.​

(Isaiah 66:17-24)​

Ellen White begins this paragraph with an assertion that is (on the surface) going beyond scripture:

The Sabbath was not for Israel merely, but for the world.​

The scripture says:

And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you. Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God. (Exodus 31:12-18)​

What God makes as a sign between Israel and himself would lose its significance if it were observed by all other nations and peoples unless all of them somehow became Israelites (but then, wouldn't they be Israelites and so the sign would remain unique to Israel's special status with God?). And here, in the above passage, no distinction is made between the sabbaths and the sabbath . And to make sure that no misunderstanding is possible the sabbaths/sabbath are associated with the tables of stone, written with the finger of God. Consider the words of Paul now, as a contrast regarding the sabbath days,

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. (Colossians 2:16-17).​

Thus the sign between God and Israel is not a matter about which a Christian ought to allow any man to be his judge.

Ellen White then goes on to claim,

It had been made known to man in Eden, and, like the other precepts of the Decalogue, it is of imperishable obligation.​

But where does scripture reveal that Adam (and Eve) observed the 7th day rest or were commanded to do so? And where does scripture reveal that Adam (and Eve) received the ten words (commandments) from God? Consider this,

And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them. The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb. The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day. (Deuteronomy 5:1-3)​

The covenant was made at Horeb, at Horeb! not in Eden, and it was made with those alive when Moses spoke, made with the generation whose parents had been at Horeb but who failed to keep faith with Yahweh and so died in the wilderness (see Hebrews chapters 3 and 4) and thus only their children and Joshua and Caleb received (accepted and sought to obey) the covenant. It was not made with the ancestors; not with Abraham, Isaac, or Jacob and not with Noah or Adam. So how is the assertion made by Ellen White consistent with scripture? It gives every appearance of being contrary to scripture.

More later...

 

[RisingSpirit]

I got to wondering if her explanations were based on sound exegesis and if she understood the principles of christian hermeneutics; namely, reading the old testament in the light of Christ. .

When White was young, Her teen enemy friend threw a rock at her head. She went into coma for weeks or months. Later, she had visions from an injured mind. With her mental mindset, why would we ever bother read about her visions? With that mental illness, there isn't a sound exegesis.

 

[MoreCoffee]

When White was young, Her teen enemy friend threw a rock at her head. She went into coma for weeks...

I had read about her head injury and coma. I guess it is possible that the head injury had an affect on her that played a part in the visions she reported having but it is - as far as I know - only speculation to say so. Whatever the injury was and however it may have affected her in later life (if it did) one thing is certain, it did not slow down her writing efforts, according to the back cover of the book from which I am quoting she wrote more than 130 books.

 

[Elder 111]

The Sabbath was not for Israel merely, but for the world. It had been made known to man in Eden, and, like the other precepts of the Decalogue, it is of imperishable obligation. Of that law of which the fourth commandment forms a part, Christ declares, "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in nowise pass from the law." So long as the heavens and the earth endure, the Sabbath will continue as a sign of the Creator's power. And when Eden shall bloom on earth again, God's holy rest day will be honored by all beneath the sun. "From one Sabbath to another" the inhabitants of the glorified new earth shall go up "to worship before Me, saith the Lord." Matt. 5:18; Isa. 66:23.​

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:17-20)The words of Christ are in red.

They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD. For I know their works and their thoughts:

it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory. And I will set a sign among them, and I will send those that escape of them unto the nations, to Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, that draw the bow, to Tubal, and Javan, to the isles afar off, that have not heard my fame, neither have seen my glory; and they shall declare my glory among the Gentiles. And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto the LORD out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith the LORD, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the LORD. And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites, saith the LORD. For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD. And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.​

(Isaiah 66:17-24)​

Ellen White begins this paragraph with an assertion that is (on the surface) going beyond scripture:

The Sabbath was not for Israel merely, but for the world.​

The scripture says:

And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you. Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God. (Exodus 31:12-18)​

What God makes as a sign between Israel and himself would lose its significance if it were observed by all other nations and peoples unless all of them somehow became Israelites (but then, wouldn't they be Israelites and so the sign would remain unique to Israel's special status with God?). And here, in the above passage, no distinction is made between the sabbaths and the sabbath . And to make sure that no misunderstanding is possible the sabbaths/sabbath are associated with the tables of stone, written with the finger of God. Consider the words of Paul now, as a contrast regarding the sabbath days,

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. (Colossians 2:16-17).​

Thus the sign between God and Israel is not a matter about which a Christian ought to allow any man to be his judge.

Ellen White then goes on to claim,

It had been made known to man in Eden, and, like the other precepts of the Decalogue, it is of imperishable obligation.​

But where does scripture reveal that Adam (and Eve) observed the 7th day rest or were commanded to do so? And where does scripture reveal that Adam (and Eve) received the ten words (commandments) from God? Consider this,

And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them. The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb. The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day. (Deuteronomy 5:1-3)​

The covenant was made at Horeb, at Horeb! not in Eden, and it was made with those alive when Moses spoke, made with the generation whose parents had been at Horeb but who failed to keep faith with Yahweh and so died in the wilderness (see Hebrews chapters 3 and 4) and thus only their children and Joshua and Caleb received (accepted and sought to obey) the covenant. It was not made with the ancestors; not with Abraham, Isaac, or Jacob and not with Noah or Adam. So how is the assertion made by Ellen White consistent with scripture? It gives every appearance of being contrary to scripture.

More later...

1. From your presentation here I take it that all flesh in Isa. 66 mean Israel. Please explain.
2. If God says that you should not lie does that mean that I can, that it does not apply to me?
3. How come you do not accept that stealing is OK? The same command was given to Israel with the Sabbath on the same stones.
4. The Sabbath blessed sanctified and hallowed from creation so why apply it to the Jews only?
5. Jesus said it was for man not for the Jews only. Are you greater than Jesus?

 

[MoreCoffee]

1. From your presentation here I take it that all flesh in Isa. 66 mean Israel. Please explain.
2. If God says that you should not lie does that mean that I can, that it does not apply to me?
3. How come you do not accept that stealing is OK? The same command was given to Israel with the Sabbath on the same stones.
4. The Sabbath blessed sanctified and hallowed from creation so why apply it to the Jews only?
5. Jesus said it was for man not for the Jews only. Are you greater than Jesus?

1. No. " all flesh in Isa. 66 [does not] mean Israel"
2. No.
3. Because it is not OK. The commandment about the 7th day has a liturgical part (the 7th day is the liturgical part) which was fulfilled by the Lord and has now passed away.
4. For Israel it was given. Not for gentiles.
5. Jesus said that the rest (sabbath) was made for man(kind) and not man(kind) for the rest (sabbath). No mention of 7th day.

 

[mmksparbud]

I will gladly help.

2053 To this first reply Jesus adds a second: "If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me."(Mt 19:21) This reply does not do away with the first: following Jesus Christ involves keeping the Commandments. The Law has not been abolished,(Cf. Mt 5:17) but rather man is invited to rediscover it in the person of his Master who is its perfect fulfilment. In the three synoptic Gospels, Jesus' call to the rich young man to follow him, in the obedience of a disciple and in the observance of the Commandments, is joined to the call to poverty and chastity.(Cf. Mt 19:6-12, 21, 23-29) The evangelical counsels are inseparable from the Commandments.

2068 The Council of Trent teaches that the Ten Commandments are obligatory for Christians and that the justified man is still bound to keep them; the Second Vatican Council confirms: "The bishops, successors of the apostles, receive from the Lord . . . the mission of teaching all peoples, and of preaching the Gospel to every creature, so that all men may attain salvation through faith, Baptism and the observance of the Commandments."
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Cheers

Now I'm really confused--You are Catholic, this says "so that all men may attain salvation through faith, Baptism and the observance of the commandments."----It says "the 10 commandments are obligatory for Christians."
Why does your faith teach one thing, yet you seem to teach another? Have I got something wrong?

 

[bugkiller]

I find EGW quoted using what I recognize as langauge used only in occult circles of influence.

For instance where does EGW say the Holy Spirit showed me? She says over and over my angel showed me. If I am not mistaken she even says my guiding angel. Such is occult demon terminology.

bugkiller

 

[MoreCoffee]

Now I'm really confused--You are Catholic, this says "so that all men may attain salvation through faith, Baptism and the observance of the commandments."----It says "the 10 commandments are obligatory for Christians."
Why does your faith teach one thing, yet you seem to teach another?

The church teaches and I accept her teaching. Your interpretation is in error.

Have I got something wrong?

Yes.

 

[mmksparbud]

The church teaches and I accept her teaching. Your interpretation is in error. Yes.

Please explain.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Please explain.

The thread on the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the sabbath explains.

SABBATH: The Sabbath or seventh "day," on which God rested after the work of the "six days" of creation was completed, as recounted in the opening narrative of the Bible. Creation is thus ordered to the Sabbath, the day to be kept holy to the praise and worship of God. Just as the seventh day or Sabbath completes the first creation, so the "eighth day," Sunday, the day of the week on which Jesus rose from the dead, is celebrated as the "holy day" by Christians--the day on which the "new creation" began. Thus the Christian observance of Sunday fulfills the commandment to remember and keep holy the Sabbath day.

Let's not divert this thread. If you want to consider Catholic teaching then the link above provides the right thread for the purpose.

 

[bugkiller]

Depends on what covenant one is participating in. Only one of the commandments are talked about in order to sneak in the back door to prove obligation to the law. Was lying, theft, murder and adlutery wrong before the law?

It has been pointed out the sabbath was given to Israel and not the world even by a prolaw person. Then a conflicting statement about the sabbath follows. To enforce the idea a misrepresentation of the Scripture follows that.

I still ask if Jesus is telling the truth because He directly contradicts Moses with MK 2:27 in a divorced from context language (quote). Is this not what satan did with Eve?

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

Interesting that commandments is capitalized. While this is so it does not say the Ten Commandments. The 10 Cs are not obligatory for the Christian. Galatians 5 is well spoken in this matter. So is Romans and select other verses.

bugkiller

 

[mmksparbud]

So this thread is strictly about Ellen White's stand, writtings on the Sabbath?---Sorry, did not mean to try to derail.

Well, I am perfectly happy with what she wrote concerning the sabbath. It just so happens that I agree with what she has written, I believe it's biblical. Having read what your opposition to her writtings are, I find them trivial and and of no earthly (or heavenly) value. We are on opposite ends of this tug of war with no one going to concede. I find her use of scripture appropriate---Like the apostles used the scriptures (including Jesus) to enlighten. She, at least, did not add to God's creation week by adding on an 8th day. She left the commandments as God wrote them and makes no claim to have any authority to change that day.
Her writtings do not teach anyone to change the law of God into something more conviniant to our lifestyle and suggests we fit into God's lifestyle. She sheds a beautiful light on the joy of the sabbath.

 

[MoreCoffee]

So this thread is strictly about Ellen White's stand, writtings on the Sabbath?---Sorry, did not mean to try to derail.

You're a nice chap, thanks for your kindness and cooperation.

Well, I am perfectly happy with what she wrote concerning the sabbath. It just so happens that I agree with what she has written, I believe it's biblical. Having read what your opposition to her writtings are, I find them trivial and and of no earthly (or heavenly) value. We are on opposite ends of this tug of war with no one going to concede. I find her use of scripture appropriate---Like the apostles used the scriptures (including Jesus) to enlighten. She, at least, did not add to God's creation week by adding on an 8th day. She left the commandments as God wrote them and makes no claim to have any authority to change that day.

Her writtings do not teach anyone to change the law of God into something more conviniant to our lifestyle and suggests we fit into God's lifestyle. She sheds a beautiful light on the joy of the sabbath.

I am not writing for you, though if what I write is beneficial for you then God be praised.

 

[Elder 111]

1. No. " all flesh in Isa. 66 [does not] mean Israel"
2. No.
3. Because it is not OK. The commandment about the 7th day has a liturgical part (the 7th day is the liturgical part) which was fulfilled by the Lord and has now passed away.
4. For Israel it was given. Not for gentiles.
5. Jesus said that the rest (sabbath) was made for man(kind) and not man(kind) for the rest (sabbath). No mention of 7th day.

So when was not the seventh day the Sabbath?

 

[Elder 111]

I find EGW quoted using what I recognize as langauge used only in occult circles of influence.

For instance where does EGW say the Holy Spirit showed me? She says over and over my angel showed me. If I am not mistaken she even says my guiding angel. Such is occult demon terminology.

bugkiller

Which would puts it perfect for Mary too was led likewise. As well as many others. Let me see, Peter out of prison, ah, Jesus, yes He had angel encounters.
yea.
There are certainly others.
Warning: all angels are evil demons!!!!!!

 

[MoreCoffee]

The Sabbath was not for Israel merely, but for the world. It had been made known to man in Eden, and, like the other precepts of the Decalogue, it is of imperishable obligation. Of that law of which the fourth commandment forms a part, Christ declares, "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in nowise pass from the law." So long as the heavens and the earth endure, the Sabbath will continue as a sign of the Creator's power. And when Eden shall bloom on earth again, God's holy rest day will be honored by all beneath the sun. "From one Sabbath to another" the inhabitants of the glorified new earth shall go up "to worship before Me, saith the Lord." Matt. 5:18; Isa. 66:23.

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:17-20)The words of Christ are in red.

They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD. For I know their works and their thoughts:

it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory. And I will set a sign among them, and I will send those that escape of them unto the nations, to Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, that draw the bow, to Tubal, and Javan, to the isles afar off, that have not heard my fame, neither have seen my glory; and they shall declare my glory among the Gentiles. And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto the LORD out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith the LORD, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the LORD. And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites, saith the LORD. For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD. And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.​

​

(Isaiah 66:17-24)​

Ellen White writes

Of that law of which the fourth commandment forms a part, Christ declares, "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in nowise pass from the law." So long as the heavens and the earth endure, the Sabbath will continue as a sign of the Creator's power.​

There's a transition in what Ellen Whites writes from what the Lord says of "the law":

• first to "that law of which the fourth commandment forms a part" and then
• second to "the Sabbath will continue as a sign of the Creator's power"

Leaving me with the impression that Ellen White regards "the law" as a synonym for "the ten commandments' in this saying of the Lord. That is, of course, not the case. And even allowing for the natural desire of Ellen White to deal with "the sabbath" in a chapter of her book called "The Sabbath" one is left with the impression that rather more is being said by the Lord than Ellen White is willing to deal with.

So, what does the Lord teach in the gospel passage quoted in red text above? My bible's footnote says:

This statement of Jesus’ position concerning the Mosaic law is composed of traditional material from Matthew’s sermon documentation (see note on Mt 5:1–7:29), other Q material (cf. Mt 18; Lk 16:17), and the evangelist’s own editorial touches. To fulfill the law appears at first to mean a literal enforcement of the law in the least detail: until heaven and earth pass away nothing of the law will pass (Mt 5:18). Yet the “passing away” of heaven and earth is not necessarily the end of the world understood, as in much apocalyptic literature, as the dissolution of the existing universe. The “turning of the ages” comes with the apocalyptic event of Jesus’ death and resurrection, and those to whom this gospel is addressed are living in the new and final age, prophesied by Isaiah as the time of “new heavens and a new earth” (Is 65:17; 66:22). Meanwhile, during Jesus’ ministry when the kingdom is already breaking in, his mission remains within the framework of the law, though with significant anticipation of the age to come, as the following antitheses (Mt 5:21–48) show.​

So first, after remarking on source materials for saint Matthew's gospel passage, there comes these observations:

1. The law is in fact a reference to the Mosaic Law rather than to the ten commandments only.
2. The passing away of heaven and Earth need not be taken as a reference to the end of the ages, when Christ comes in final judgement to reward each according to what they have done, but ought to be understood of the end of the age governed by the old covenant; which was soon to happen when the Lord was crucified and rose from the grave thus bringing to a finish all that the law was intended to do.
3. Even though the law remains in force for the time being, from the Lord's perspective as he spoke to the crowd, it does not remain unaffected by the Lord's coming. Verses 21 to 48 outline how the law ought to be understood in the transitional period through which Jesus' listeners were living.

What is especially remarkable about the difference between Ellen White's comments and the Lord's words is that Ellen White sees the sabbath as a matter under discussion in the words of the Lord while the Lord does not mention the sabbath at all, he doesn't mention the sabbath once in the sermon on the mount. Nevertheless Ellen White says of this passage that "So long as the heavens and the earth endure, the Sabbath will continue as a sign of the Creator's power."

So, I am left wondering about the soundness of Ellen White's reasoning from the scriptures.

 

[Elder 111]

The thread on the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the sabbath explains.Let's not divert this thread. If you want to consider Catholic teaching then the link above provides the right thread for the purpose.

You cannot be serious. You provided this info that clearly and absolutely states that the Sabbath is the seventh day, say that you believes the same and yet quoted something else earlier? Suggesting that Jesus spoke of the seventh day which is not the Sabbath of the ten commandment. As the youth would ask. You fa real?

 

[MoreCoffee]

The thread on the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the sabbath explains.Let's not divert this thread. If you want to consider Catholic teaching then the link above provides the right thread for the purpose.

You cannot be serious. You provided this info that clearly and absolutely states that the Sabbath is the seventh day, say that you believes the same and yet quoted something else earlier? Suggesting that Jesus spoke of the seventh day which is not the Sabbath of the ten commandment. As the youth would ask. You fa real?

I am serious about the thread on the Catechism being the proper place to discuss Catholic teaching on the sabbath. The thread's title is "Catechism of the Catholic Church on Sabbath observance." Click the link and see for yourself.