Election fraud

[Arc F1]

Odd that you would view the facts of the case to be an excuse.


In this case, a single person sought to register 67 people without their knowledge and consent. The person was caught before anyone was registered, so no actual votes were cast.

So there was fraud? I have to say that you are the first one on the left I've seen that admits it. What other fraud have you seen during this election?

 

[durangodawood]

There's some tiny amount of fraud every election.

What we're seeing now is just a massive effort to de-legitimize this election. Basically people are burning American democracy on the altar of Trump. We will all pay a price for this.

 

[GDL]

The BIGGEST problem is the division between the people. It's just basic school yard behaviour, left/right, red/blue, socialist/capitalist - I just don't understand why the human race STILL can't get it right.

Why is the division such a surprise? It's what Christ said He came to do (Matt10; Luke12). Politicians are people & thus also divided. The bigger question is, why are "Christians" so divided? But there are answers to this also.

 

[cow451]

So there was fraud? I have to say that you are the first one on the left I've seen that admits it. What other fraud have you seen during this election?

The allegations you and some other Trump supporters are making are that there is widespread fraud that has stolen the election. 67 instances that did amount to a single vote is NOT making that case.

 

[Arc F1]

There's some tiny amount of fraud every election.

What we're seeing now is just a massive effort to de-legitimize this election. Basically people are burning American democracy on the altar of Trump. We will all pay a price for this.

How do we know if it's constantly downplayed as nothing.

 

[Arc F1]

The allegations you and some other Trump supporters are making are that there is widespread fraud that has stolen the election. 67 instances that did amount to a single vote is NOT making that case.

Now people are at least admitting there was fraud. What have you seen?

 

[cow451]

How do we know if it's constantly downplayed as nothing.

You present actual evidence relevant to this election. You clearly cannot do that.

 

[cow451]

Now people are at least admitting there was fraud. What have you seen?

Nothing that backs up your claim.

 

[Arc F1]

You present actual evidence relevant to this election. You clearly cannot do that.

I clearly have over and over. It's that regardless of what I show the person reading it refuses to believe it's true. Putting one's head in the sand doesn't make it go away.

 

[Vylo]

How do we know if it's constantly downplayed as nothing.

Because we have people from both sides watching it like a hawk. You think a poll worker from the GOP is going to watch one from the Dems cheat and just shrug it off?

 

[cow451]

I clearly have over and over. It's that regardless of what I show the person reading it refuses to believe it's true. Putting one's head in the sand doesn't make it go away.

You haven’t presented squat.

 

[Vylo]

I clearly have over and over. It's that regardless of what I show the person reading it refuses to believe it's true. Putting one's head in the sand doesn't make it go away.

People will believe it when there is sufficient evidence. No such evidence has been produced. The GOP themselves is saying there was no fraud.

 

[Arc F1]

Because we have people from both sides watching it like a hawk. You think a poll worker from the GOP is going to watch one from the Dems cheat and just shrug it off?

They haven't been shrugging it off. Watch the video of the part when Republicans are escorted from the building and everyone cheers.

 

[durangodawood]

How do we know if it's constantly downplayed as nothing.

Follow what law enforcement says. The rest is just people fighting for your mind, using any tactic necessary.

 

[Arc F1]

You haven’t presented squat.

Why do you think that? You are obviously aware of what's been presented so do you think it's all fake or what? How do you justify it in your mind.

 

[JustSomeBloke]

The president should have left Twitter and taken millions of people with him. His pride has added to the problems.

Although I dislike what Twitter is doing, I have accepted that President Trump has to stay on Twitter. In order to expose Twitter, Facebook, Google, the MSM, polling organisations, and the rest of the swamp, for what they really are, President Trump has to complete the dirty process of playing their game by their rules. I trust him and his advisors to know when is the right time to eventually take action.

For example, if President Trump leaves Twitter, then they cannot censor him any more, and the flow of evidence that they are biased against him, and other Republican, Conservative voices, will instantly stop. We need to be patient, and wait for all of this to play out to the ultimate conclusion.

 

[Arc F1]

People will believe it when there is sufficient evidence. No such evidence has been produced. The GOP themselves is saying there was no fraud.

What is evidence? Video, statements from those involved in mean what does it take. I've seen all kinds of news reports on the subject. Surely they aren't just making it up.

 

[durangodawood]

Why do you think that? You are obviously aware of what's been presented so do you think it's all fake or what? How do you justify it in your mind.

Liars are presenting us with a raft of lies.

After seeing a few dozen of these lies completely dismantled. Its time to stop chasing every new one down and start listening to law enforcement.

 

[Arc F1]

Follow what law enforcement says. The rest is just people fighting for your mind, using any tactic necessary.

We haven't reached that stage yet. The wheels of justice move slowly. We can still see what's going on and voice our views before it's old news and forgotten. At least I think we still can.

 

[GDL]

I've even witnessed apparent xenophobia towards me and High Fidelity in recent threads too with a guy who refused to even so much as hear us

Xenophobia or firm disagreement? Not everything is based in a fear.

That's a lesson to us all: actually finish the fight. Even if you ARE being outpointed. Be a man and finish the fight - and if you lose, do so in a sportsman like manner.

I'm glad he is finishing the fight. He thinks there is widespread fraud, so he has the perfect right to make his case. The expanding lawlessness in the US makes it difficult to have a case decided without prejudice. There really are no rules to this game. They're being made up as it plays out.

At the end of the matter, all these forms of government are theories that will end up making all reasoning minds realize that man cannot rule himself apart from God. This is similar to how God's Law showed reasoning minds that man cannot even rule himself apart from God.

I'm glad God put Trump in place. He brought to the surface how deeply we are really divided and how aggressively the left will get to win the game. Until Trump they were just doing so somewhat more under the surface. The divide is here & it will be interesting to see how aggressive each side will become, if one side will capitulate, where the US goes & what we all go through to go there...