Election fraud

[Arc F1]

The failure falls entirely on Trump. As an incumbent he couldn't even beat what he called the WORST candidate ever, a "loser". That's how bad and hated Trump is, that he couldn't win a layup.

Hillary was once the worst candidate ever but now Trump has taken over that title, losing as an incumbent, only one of 3 presidents to lose as an incumbent.

History will remember Trump as the biggest failure of all the American presidents. You're even admitting his failure in your post without realizing it.

He did fail to put a stop to the fraud. He did let his pride take over instead of stopping the social media censorship. I do blame him for letting us down.

 

[Albion]

Absentee or mail-in? Not the same thing although both use the mail.

The difference no longer matters.

Also, to throw another issue into the matter: One of the problems in our system, which I heard discussed, is how things are done at the district levels and how open this is to corruption, more-so than it would be at the state level according to some opinions being presented.

That could be so. And then there is the perhaps disturbing fact that we no longer have anything approaching uniformity from state to state. Only one presidential election ago, there was basic uniformity, but now, with the changes made at the state level only this year, it's a crazy quilt of widely differing election laws.

...there is such an aggressive divide & more widespread lawlessness, something needs to change again or we're where you said here (which I think we are or will be):

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

The difference no longer matters.


That could be so. And then there is the perhaps disturbing fact that we no longer have anything approaching uniformity from state to state. Only one presidential election ago, there was basic uniformity, but now, with the changes made at the state level only this year, it's a crazy quilt of widely differing election laws.

This is either ignorance or gaslighting. Either way it is wrong. We’ve always had a crazy patch work of election laws. The states have the right to run their elections as they see fit as long as they don’t run afoul with the Constitution and states have always taken full advantage of that.

 

[GDL]

The difference no longer matters.

For this cycle. But, it no longer matters in the bigger picture once things remain status-quo and even worsen (as I read you, we agree on this). There's still some light left, but it's darkening exponentially and has been for several administrations.

In my recent memory, when POTUS candidates had to debate sexual & marriage issues, we were already deep into Romans 1 judgment instruction. We're not just judged for such things. The open presence at some level & the expansion is the judgment.

From there & associated, the capacity for thought has been receding as God turns more & more people over to themselves. From admin to admin this only becomes more clear.

All is in another big transition. From one revolution to another to another. This US election is just a part.

 

[GDL]

Either way it is wrong.

Agreed. And wrong is what we should be firmly & actively against, rather than be told we cannot be part of the process in some absurd separation doctrine and 501(c)3 status.

Fact is, most Christians are hardly sensible/prudent/wise as serpents and are easily manipulated into 4 walls behind doors. It's just a bigger hiding place than a basket.

 

[Foamhead]

This guy did a really good job of putting together what's going on this election. It's a half hour well spent watching.

Myself, personally, I feel like the republicans let us down. They should have fell in line and supported the will of the people and threw their support behind Trump these last four years. We had plenty of time time to address these issues and straighten out the censorship problems. The president should have left Twitter and taken millions of people with him. His pride has added to the problems.

"If the republicans fell in line"???

If the GoP were any more in bed with Trump the last 4 years they'd have to marry him.

 

[DaisyDay]

So there was fraud? I have to say that you are the first one on the left I've seen that admits it. What other fraud have you seen during this election?

Donald declaring himself the winner. Donald supporters claiming that no one was able to observe the count in Philadelphia.

 

[Albion]

"If the republicans fell in line"???

If the GoP were any more in bed with Trump the last 4 years they'd have to marry him.

You don't seem to be aware of the evidence that goes the other way. Or maybe you are and just wanted to work in that joke??

 

[Arc F1]

Donald declaring himself the winner. Donald supporters claiming that no one was able to observe the count in Philadelphia.

No fraud is acceptable. Speak up and start showing what's going on.

 

[driewerf]

"If the republicans fell in line"???

If the GoP were any more in bed with Trump the last 4 years they'd have to marry him.

Since when do you need to be married with Trump to be in bed with him?

 

[cow451]

Why do you think that? You are obviously aware of what's been presented so do you think it's all fake or what? How do you justify it in your mind.

My mind knows real from fantasy. You haven’t read my posts or understand that zero votes have been nullified and no evidence indicates any actual impact of the fantasy your side has.

If there is any substance the court rulings in suits filed already. Until then, you got nothing.

 

[cow451]

Idk. What I'm seeing is widespread. I guess it just matters who you voted for. I heard non stop about Trump cheating when he won. There's always another election right around the corner.

You are seeing widespread whining and paranoid fantasy.

 

[Foamhead]

You don't seem to be aware of the evidence that goes the other way. Or maybe you are and just wanted to work in that joke??

I can't see how they could possibly be any more in line with him.

 

[Arc F1]

You are seeing widespread whining and paranoid fantasy.

I'm doing a lot of whining. Hey I'm always honest. I don't know what more you could ask for.

 

[cow451]

I'm doing a lot of whining. Hey I'm always honest. I don't know what more you could ask for.

Whining is understandable. Believing the crock about the election being stolen is just sad.

 

[Arc F1]

Whining is understandable. Believing the crock about the election being stolen is just sad.

And if the tables were turned I'm sure.... Never mind. I have a push rod to change in the hemi. I better get on it.

 

[GDL]

Setting partisanship aside in order to be the impartial judges we are commanded to be, it seems these are not minor allegations of some typical fraud, but much, much greater. These are not sounding like minor legal issues. IF they are proven, and IF there is such a thing as an impartial court left in the US, and IF the decision is based in law & not in an opinion of how a legal decision might affect the nation in its powder-keg condition, and IF all this can be accomplished in some reasonable amount of time, THEN.....

 

[Vylo]

And if the tables were turned I'm sure.... Never mind. I have a push rod to change in the hemi. I better get on it.

honestly I did have concern about voter fraud for the dems this year. Remember that China and Russia profit from chaos, and China has soured on Trump. So I could have seen them trying some shenanigans to stir the pot.

 

[GDL]

Whining is understandable. Believing the crock about the election being stolen is just sad.

And you're judge & jury without the inside knowledge of all coming legal challenges & evidences? A bit premature on your part even if you end up being correct. It'll play out. Or maybe it'll pass like so much of the perverted entertainment known as US media & politics these days. The point is, you don't know, nor likely do any of us here. All we can do is choose sides, which is not our required impartiality.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Setting partisanship aside in order to be the impartial judges we are commanded to be, it seems these are not minor allegations of some typical fraud, but much, much greater. These are not sounding like minor legal issues. IF they are proven, and IF there is such a thing as an impartial court left in the US, and IF the decision is based in law & not in an opinion of how a legal decision might affect the nation in its powder-keg condition, and IF all this can be accomplished in some reasonable amount of time, THEN.....

Thanks for the warning with the key frame on that video. I don't think anyone needs to know what Tom Fitton, Lou Dobbs, and Sydney Powell are presenting. None of them even approach credibility.