EEEEVIL Vegans.

[The Gregorian]

I just saw a thread talking about vegans/vegetarians... and I didn't want to disrupt it... but I'll make my own:

Vegetarians are bad. Not people who don't eat meat for any particular "real" reason... but people who won't eat cows because they're alive and they don't want to kill life... I have news for you: One cow dies... he'll provide a meal for HUNDREDS of people. How many grapes have to die to fill you up? HMMMM? Not even adults... when you eat a grabe, you take still developing embryo while attached to a disembodied portion of an adult grape vine. While that small baby is still alive you brutally tear it off it's mother's body and place it in your mouth, applying pressure on it until it's little body erupts into juicy goodness in your mouth... you slowly repeat this process one by one slaying it's siblings.

Grapes are JUST as alive as cows. Cows are for eating. If you can kill a grape, you can kill a cow... at least people wait for the cow to be BORN AND COOKED.... they don't sell you cow uterus and let you rip out the embryo while it's still alive and pop it's juicy goodness in your mouth raw. No, that would be sick. So why do it with grapes?

 

[Krazeekkc]

Hmmm, well I'm not a vegan myself I think that it's how the animals are treated while they are alive. I don't really have any links showing the way they are treated except for: themeatrix.com and then a link to baby cows and veal: http://www.noveal.org/ Although since I'm not a vegan I'm not comepletely sure if that is there main motive or not.

Also, a grape doesn't actually "feel", it doesn't have a brain or the five senses. They aren't a living being; they are a plant!

I just saw a thread talking about vegans/vegetarians... and I didn't want to disrupt it... but I'll make my own:

Vegetarians are bad. Not people who don't eat meat for any particular "real" reason... but people who won't eat cows because they're alive and they don't want to kill life... I have news for you: One cow dies... he'll provide a meal for HUNDREDS of people. How many grapes have to die to fill you up? HMMMM? Not even adults... when you eat a grabe, you take still developing embryo while attached to a disembodied portion of an adult grape vine. While that small baby is still alive you brutally tear it off it's mother's body and place it in your mouth, applying pressure on it until it's little body erupts into juicy goodness in your mouth... you slowly repeat this process one by one slaying it's siblings.

Grapes are JUST as alive as cows. Cows are for eating. If you can kill a grape, you can kill a cow... at least people wait for the cow to be BORN AND COOKED.... they don't sell you cow uterus and let you rip out the embryo while it's still alive and pop it's juicy goodness in your mouth raw. No, that would be sick. So why do it with grapes?

 

[gaijin178]

Why are vegetarians bad? I am not quite sure that I understand the statement. Part of the reason you might think that they are bad is because we could just eat a cow, when in fact the reality of it is that we spend more food on feeding the cow for our consuption that could be used to feed many more. The treatment of these animals in the West is horrible and that is one of the reasons why I won't eat them for food. I do not want to support that. The ground beef that you buy in the store may contain 100's of parts from 100's of different cows, from different countries and locations. When we buy that meat in the store, you never know where it is coming from. Also, most of us vegetarians are the way that we are for a couple of reasons, one being health, and two being of moral reasons. If someone chooses to not eat a particular type of meat such as pork, do you call them wrong or just respect that they will eat other kinds of meat? Also, it is a choice, just as one might choose to not eat fast food or whatever...vegetarianism is a choice so please do not just blatently call it wrong.

It is documented that plants are alive, hense why they grow for consumption. However, in my tradition, it is about the killing of sentient beings, of which, plants are not. So please don't used the grapes are being killed argument when some of us have made a choice to not eat meat. It is much harder for us to find places to eat which would cater to our diets so please, have some compassion and respect for our choices.

 

[invisible trousers]

vegetarians/vegans don't affect you in any way; i don't understand why should you care if other people decide not to eat meat.

less people eating meat means more delicious beef pad lao and pad thai for me

 

[gaijin178]

vegetarians/vegans don't affect you in any way; i don't understand why should you care if other people decide not to eat meat.

less people eating meat means more delicious beef pad lao and pad thai for me

You have beef in your Pad Thai! I thought that it was mainly chicken...well, I love mine with tofu without the fish sauce of course

 

[drspock]

You have beef in your Pad Thai! I thought that it was mainly chicken...well, I love mine with tofu without the fish sauce of course

Hey man. Beef it's whats for dinner

 

[justin88]

I don't think vegitarianism is wrong, its when peole start saying that eating meat is wrong thats when I get annoyed. I understand animals have feelings and what not but I don't think an animal deserves all of these rediculous rights. Endangered species and whatnot, whatever. that makes sense to me. Animals are awesome to look at but some of them are also awesome to eat. And I enjoy the steaks and tri-tip my dad and youth pastor cook for me (youth pastors tri-tip is the most amazing thing that has ever touched my tongue) heck, my entire family are a bunch of cooks and we LOVE meat but when someone comes into my house and says "oh my gosh how could you eat that poor cow?" its not like that cow served any important purpose besides to be eaten. The only benefit cows are to this society is milk. They do nothing else except eat, sleep, and make babies. So we make use of them by using some to make milk, and eating the others.

(Edit: something i said probably didnt make sense cuz its 1:38am and im a little tired haha. ok just wanted to add that.)

 

[MidnightBlue]

Oh, come on.

I'm not a vegan, and I can't foresee any circumstances under which I'd even consider it. But there are lots of reasons why people are vegans; some have to do with animal rights, but others have religious, health, environmental, or sustainability issues. My cousin became a vegetarian (not a vegan) because she believed the drugs and hormones in commercially-produced meat had a bad effect on her arthritis, and her arthritis did improve a lot.

By the way, you can eat all the grapes without killing the vine itself. No harm done.

As for me, I'll have the bratwurst, with some kraut and some grilled onions.

 

[MidnightBlue]

They do nothing else except eat, sleep, and make babies. So we make use of them by using some to make milk, and eating the others.

Whoa, hold on there! Throw in a television and some microwave popcorn, and that sounds like some people I know.

 

[Hydra009]

I'm most definitely an omnivore, but let me say my peace.

Vegetarians are bad. Not people who don't eat meat for any particular "real" reason... but people who won't eat cows because they're alive and they don't want to kill life... I have news for you: One cow dies... he'll provide a meal for HUNDREDS of people. How many grapes have to die to fill you up? HMMMM? Not even adults... when you eat a grabe, you take still developing embryo while attached to a disembodied portion of an adult grape vine. While that small baby is still alive you brutally tear it off it's mother's body and place it in your mouth, applying pressure on it until it's little body erupts into juicy goodness in your mouth... you slowly repeat this process one by one slaying it's siblings.

lol. Is this serious? You honestly don't see the difference between infanticide and fruit-eating?

A couple questions you should be asking yourself:

Are the grapes and the cow at the same cognitive level?

In what manner are cows raised and slaughtered? Is it humane?

Does eating a seed-containing fruit mean that the seed won't germinate? Why does the plant go through the tremendous effort to make fruits fragrant and tasty to various animals if doing so harms the plant's seeds and reduces its ability to reproduce? What does the plant get out of it? (This one should be obvious)

Which trophic level contains more energy, producers (fruiting plants, for example) or primary consumers (like the cow)?

Grapes are JUST as alive as cows.

Obviously, plants are alive. I don't think any vegan or vegetarian seriously disputes that.

Cows are for eating.

Begging the question.

 

[invisible trousers]

The only benefit cows are to this society is milk. They do nothing else except eat, sleep, and make babies. So we make use of them by using some to make milk, and eating the others.

you forgot that they are also exceptional roadblocks

 

[Scholar in training]

PETA forever. Animals are people too!

On a completely unrelated note, "where's the beef?"

 

[peepnklown]

I am pretty sure somewhere on earth cow uterus is a delicacy.

 

[Fuzzy]

I am pretty sure somewhere on earth cow uterus is a delicacy.

Read "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair. You'll like it.

 

[psychedelicist]

I just saw a thread talking about vegans/vegetarians... and I didn't want to disrupt it... but I'll make my own:

Vegetarians are bad. Not people who don't eat meat for any particular "real" reason... but people who won't eat cows because they're alive and they don't want to kill life... I have news for you: One cow dies... he'll provide a meal for HUNDREDS of people. How many grapes have to die to fill you up? HMMMM? Not even adults... when you eat a grabe, you take still developing embryo while attached to a disembodied portion of an adult grape vine. While that small baby is still alive you brutally tear it off it's mother's body and place it in your mouth, applying pressure on it until it's little body erupts into juicy goodness in your mouth... you slowly repeat this process one by one slaying it's siblings.

Grapes are JUST as alive as cows. Cows are for eating. If you can kill a grape, you can kill a cow... at least people wait for the cow to be BORN AND COOKED.... they don't sell you cow uterus and let you rip out the embryo while it's still alive and pop it's juicy goodness in your mouth raw. No, that would be sick. So why do it with grapes?

I'm not s vegan either. I mostly do eat vegetables and stuff though, the only meat I really ever eat is venison (I have half a deer in my freezer) and the occasional steak. I wouldn't have a problem with vegetariansism if there wasn't venison. DOn't they know what they're missing out on?

THeir arguement deosn't make much sense either. They think eating meat is like murdering an animal. Well, animals killa nd eat each other all the time in nature,how is it different for us? Besides, our anatomy says that we are omnivores, why should we settle for just vegetables?

 

[The Seeker]

animals killa nd eat each other all the time in nature,how is it different for us?

You're so right!

*Throws feaces at psychedelicist*

 

[Lokisdottir]

I just saw a thread talking about vegans/vegetarians... and I didn't want to disrupt it... but I'll make my own:

Vegetarians are bad. Not people who don't eat meat for any particular "real" reason... but people who won't eat cows because they're alive and they don't want to kill life... I have news for you: One cow dies... he'll provide a meal for HUNDREDS of people. How many grapes have to die to fill you up? HMMMM? Not even adults... when you eat a grabe, you take still developing embryo while attached to a disembodied portion of an adult grape vine. While that small baby is still alive you brutally tear it off it's mother's body and place it in your mouth, applying pressure on it until it's little body erupts into juicy goodness in your mouth... you slowly repeat this process one by one slaying it's siblings.

Grapes are JUST as alive as cows. Cows are for eating. If you can kill a grape, you can kill a cow... at least people wait for the cow to be BORN AND COOKED.... they don't sell you cow uterus and let you rip out the embryo while it's still alive and pop it's juicy goodness in your mouth raw. No, that would be sick. So why do it with grapes?

Strictly speaking, cows aren't "meant" to be eaten. Grapes are. All fruit is meant to be consumed. It's a way of spreading the seeds around and ensuring that the plants will cover a wider area. Animals eat the fruit, animals wander off to different areas and, err, deposit the seeds (which don't get digested). New plant grows. This process doesn't work so well with humans because we have toilets and septic tanks, but with other animals, it's just dandy.

Plants do not have brains, or brainstems, or nervous systems. They cannot suffer, and even if they can, it isn't nearly on the same level as most animals.

Obviously you believe human life is worth more than animal life, if you're willing to kill and eat them for your own sustenance. So don't cry "hypocrisy" when a vegetarian decides that animal life is worth more than plant life, lest you wind up looking the hypocrite yourself.

Seriously, what is this thread meant to prove? Leave the vegetarians alone. I'm a meat-eater, and even I think this is ridiculous.

 

[Dark_Lite]

What I've always found funny is that vegans would be horribly malnourished if vitamin pills didn't exist.

 

[Lokisdottir]

What I've always found funny is that vegans would be horribly malnourished if vitamin pills didn't exist.

But they do. So your point is?

 

[The Seeker]

But they do. So your point is?

I wouldn't look for a point, logic isn't the millitant carnivores' strong point