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I take the attitude that Mother Teresa of Calcutta took:
"There is only one God and He is God to all; therefore it is important that everyone is seen as equal before God. I’ve always said we should help a Hindu become a better Hindu, a Muslim become a better Muslim, a Catholic become a better Catholic."

I looked it up on ewtn: Mother Teresa's words. She did say it, I guess in regard to their work because this is the entire quote:


"There is only one God and He is God to all; therefore it is important that everyone is seen as equal before God. I’ve always said we should help a Hindu become a better Hindu, a Muslim become a better Muslim, a Catholic become a better Catholic. We believe our work should be our example to people. We have among us 475 souls - 30 families are Catholics and the rest are all Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs—all different religions. But they all come to our prayers."

Of course we all know that it is the Holy Spirit that does the conversion, and we are all still called to the Church's mission of helping to spread the Good News of Jesus.
 
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I think this is a good approach. But is it what the Catholic Church teaches?

I don't have the CCC handy, but the basic message is that we are called to be "witnesses to Christ" always, without going into the "tactical details" of how we should do it. That is left to our own good human wisdom - which tells us that setting a good example is always more powerful than a sermon; and being kind, respectful and positive, and talking about your own experiences, is always more efficient than telling people why they are wrong.
 
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I don't have the CCC handy, but the basic message is that we are called to be "witnesses to Christ" always, without going into the "tactical details" of how we should do it. That is left to our own good human wisdom - which tells us that setting a good example is always more powerful than a sermon; and being kind, respectful and positive, and talking about your own experiences, is always more efficient than telling people why they are wrong.

Still, we must be on guard against falling into that heresy of indifferentism which is thinking that one religion is just as good as another. (Completely illogical IMO as often one religion is completely at odds with yet another.) Christ willed unity for His Church and as the Catechism says, we "must always pray and work to maintain, reinforce, and perfect the unity that Christ wills for her (His Church)."
 
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Of course. But refraining from polemics that can come across as hurtful and serve very little purpose, is something completely different from indifferentism.

Which brings us back to testimony by example.

By the way - NOT "completely at odds". An outsider's anaylsis of world religions would reveal 50% to 99% similarity. (The difference between the Greek and the Copt Orthodox is not even 1%, if you ask me, yet they refuse Communion to one another....)
 
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I am quoting from a book called "The essential Catholic Handbook" which suggests some practical guidelines for living the faith in the spirit of Vatican II. This book was given to me by a Catholic Priest.

It suggests respecting all religions as valid approaches to finding God, that we should look at the similarities rather than the differences and that we shouldn't try to convert people who already have a religious commitment.

The "Spirit of Vatican II." :sick: No, we are definitely supposed to evangelize to everyone, whether they have a religious commitment or not. All religions are valid, huh? How about Wicca or Satanism? Or Scientology? It's a spiritual work of mercy to give instruction to the ignorant.
 
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By the way - NOT "completely at odds". An outsider's anaylsis of world religions would reveal 50% to 99% similarity. (The difference between the Greek and the Copt Orthodox is not even 1%, if you ask me, yet they refuse Communion to one another....)

No, I think I'll stick with "completely at odds". Some believe in the Trinity, some don't; some believe in one God while others believe in many or none at all; some believe in an omipotent Father who loves us while some think that He isn't--we are just property; some believe that God is just a man--like you or me--living on some planet while others believe that He's an all powerful spirit; some believe that Jesus is God while others think He is just a man (or maybe a prophet); some are still waiting for the Messiah to come while others know that He has; some believe that the Scriptures are the Bible and others have decided that there are other books; some say that Revelation is closed while others say that it is continuing; some believe in the necessity of Baptism while other's believe that it's not necessary; some believe that Communion is figurative while others say that it's actual; some believe in open Communion and yet others don't; some believe that a person can just declare himself a preacher and teach whatever he likes while others believe that one must be "sent" by the Church. I could go on and on. The very fact that there are so many different religions (instead of just one) shouts that the religions are at odds with each other! And IMO if we don't recognize that ther are differences, we are just fooling ourselves (and making ourselves "sitting ducks" for every door-to-door "religious salesman".) It will also, IMO, make inter-religious conversation very difficult because we will lack understanding.
 
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VI. THE CHURCH AND THE OTHER RELIGIONS
IN RELATION TO SALVATION
20. From what has been stated above, some points follow that are necessary for theological reflection as it explores the relationship of the Church and the other religions to salvation.
Above all else, it must be firmly believed that "the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mk 16:16; Jn 3:5), and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through baptism as through a door".77 This doctrine must not be set against the universal salvific will of God (cf. 1 Tim 2:4); "it is necessary to keep these two truths together, namely, the real possibility of salvation in Christ for all mankind and the necessity of the Church for this salvation".78
The Church is the "universal sacrament of salvation",79 since, united always in a mysterious way to the Saviour Jesus Christ, her Head, and subordinated to him, she has, in God's plan, an indispensable relationship with the salvation of every human being.80 For those who are not formally and visibly members of the Church, "salvation in Christ is accessible by virtue of a grace which, while having a mysterious relationship to the Church, does not make them formally part of the Church, but enlightens them in a way which is accommodated to their spiritual and material situation. This grace comes from Christ; it is the result of his sacrifice and is communicated by the Holy Spirit";81 it has a relationship with the Church, which "according to the plan of the Father, has her origin in the mission of the Son and the Holy Spirit".82
21. With respect to the way in which the salvific grace of God — which is always given by means of Christ in the Spirit and has a mysterious relationship to the Church — comes to individual non-Christians, the Second Vatican Council limited itself to the statement that God bestows it "in ways known to himself".83 Theologians are seeking to understand this question more fully. Their work is to be encouraged, since it is certainly useful for understanding better God's salvific plan and the ways in which it is accomplished. However, from what has been stated above about the mediation of Jesus Christ and the "unique and special relationship"84 which the Church has with the kingdom of God among men — which in substance is the universal kingdom of Christ the Saviour — it is clear that it would be contrary to the faith to consider the Church as one way of salvation alongside those constituted by the other religions, seen as complementary to the Church or substantially equivalent to her, even if these are said to be converging with the Church toward the eschatological kingdom of God.
Certainly, the various religious traditions contain and offer religious elements which come from God,85 and which are part of what "the Spirit brings about in human hearts and in the history of peoples, in cultures, and religions".86 Indeed, some prayers and rituals of the other religions may assume a role of preparation for the Gospel, in that they are occasions or pedagogical helps in which the human heart is prompted to be open to the action of God.87 One cannot attribute to these, however, a divine origin or an ex opere operato salvific efficacy, which is proper to the Christian sacraments.88 Furthermore, it cannot be overlooked that other rituals, insofar as they depend on superstitions or other errors (cf. 1 Cor 10:20-21), constitute an obstacle to salvation.89
22. With the coming of the Saviour Jesus Christ, God has willed that the Church founded by him be the instrument for the salvation of all humanity (cf. Acts 17:30-31).90 This truth of faith does not lessen the sincere respect which the Church has for the religions of the world, but at the same time, it rules out, in a radical way, that mentality of indifferentism "characterized by a religious relativism which leads to the belief that ‘one religion is as good as another'".91 If it is true that the followers of other religions can receive divine grace, it is also certain that objectively speaking they are in a gravely deficient situation in comparison with those who, in the Church, have the fullness of the means of salvation.92 However, "all the children of the Church should nevertheless remember that their exalted condition results, not from their own merits, but from the grace of Christ. If they fail to respond in thought, word, and deed to that grace, not only shall they not be saved, but they shall be more severely judged".93 One understands then that, following the Lord's command (cf. Mt 28:19-20) and as a requirement of her love for all people, the Church "proclaims and is in duty bound to proclaim without fail, Christ who is the way, the truth, and the life (Jn 14:6). In him, in whom God reconciled all things to himself (cf. 2 Cor 5:18-19), men find the fullness of their religious life".94
In inter-religious dialogue as well, the mission ad gentes "today as always retains its full force and necessity".95 "Indeed, God ‘desires all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth' (1 Tim 2:4); that is, God wills the salvation of everyone through the knowledge of the truth. Salvation is found in the truth. Those who obey the promptings of the Spirit of truth are already on the way of salvation. But the Church, to whom this truth has been entrusted, must go out to meet their desire, so as to bring them the truth. Because she believes in God's universal plan of salvation, the Church must be missionary".96 Inter-religious dialogue, therefore, as part of her evangelizing mission, is just one of the actions of the Church in her mission ad gentes.97 Equality, which is a presupposition of inter-religious dialogue, refers to the equal personal dignity of the parties in dialogue, not to doctrinal content, nor even less to the position of Jesus Christ — who is God himself made man — in relation to the founders of the other religions. Indeed, the Church, guided by charity and respect for freedom,98 must be primarily committed to proclaiming to all people the truth definitively revealed by the Lord, and to announcing the necessity of conversion to Jesus Christ and of adherence to the Church through Baptism and the other sacraments, in order to participate fully in communion with God, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Thus, the certainty of the universal salvific will of God does not diminish, but rather increases the duty and urgency of the proclamation of salvation and of conversion to the Lord Jesus Christ.

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DECLARATION "DOMINUS IESUS":
ON THE UNICITY AND SALVIFIC UNIVERSALITY OF
JESUS CHRIST AND THE CHURCH​


CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH
 
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